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[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I mean, what were the middle parts of Italy and Germany before? Wouldn’t those technically be countries that don’t exist anymore as well?

[–] grte@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago (6 children)
[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the Holy Roman Empire was quite the clusterfuck, fun to learn about though.

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.

[–] prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

talk amongst yourselves

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Confirmed by the pope, at least at the beginning, which for Christians at the time was as holy as it could get. At the start, it controlled Rome and was actively trying to copy certain Roman motifs. Even at the start it had multiple different language groups, If the Austro-Hungarians had an empire, then so did the Holy-Romans.

Voltaire was really just being a sassy bitch. /s

[–] lars@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 11 months ago

Holy Christ on the bloody cross

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Now I got flashbacks from Advanced European History. Been 35+ years and you hit me with this. I won't be able to sleep tonight.

[–] 0ops@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

That link won't load for me :(

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago

Bishopric of

Muenster

[–] Nobody@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Confirmed by the pope, at least at the beginning, which for Christians at the time was as holy as it could get. At the start, it controlled Rome and was actively trying to copy certain Roman motifs. Even at the start it had multiple different language groups, If the Austro-Hungarians had an empire, then so did the Holy-Romans.

Voltaire was really just being a sassy bitch. /s

[–] AntifaNI@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

What about the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland ?

Or the multiple Kingdoms which existed on both islands 1,000 + years ago ?

Historically just about the oldest recognisable country in Europe is France and even it's borders have shifted on multiple occasions.