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Linus does not fuck around (lemmy.one)
submitted 7 months ago by AdventuringAardvark@lemmy.one to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 550 points 7 months ago

I feel it's equally important to point ot that Torvalds recognized his toxic behavior, apologized for it, and took steps to rectify it.

In an email to the Linux Kernel Mailing List, which also addresses the kernel update of Linux 4.19-rc4, Torvalds writes: "I need to change some of my behavior, and I want to apologize to the people that my personal behavior hurt and possibly drove away from kernel development entirely."

"I am going to take time off and get some assistance on how to understand people's emotions and respond appropriately."

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 265 points 7 months ago

That was seriously admirable. From memory he actually did improve quite a lot after that as well.

[-] erev@lemmy.world 116 points 7 months ago

I've heard he's not perfect but he doesn't lose his temper anymore and has only gotten better with age. I respect anyone who can self reflect and introspect and come out a better person.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 104 points 7 months ago

Yeah, shouting at your subordinates in public is utter bullshit.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 25 points 7 months ago

So is breaking the userspace

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 11 points 7 months ago

So two wrongs make a right? Or could this have been a civil private email instead? And if civil private conversations aren't working, then it's time to part ways.

[-] pohart@programming.dev 5 points 7 months ago

A civil public email would have been fine.

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 2 points 7 months ago

Acceptable, yes. But a good manager knows not to shine a spotlight on the mistakes of the team. There's nothing to gain keeping it public that you wouldn't also gain by keeping it private. But your team's morale is kept high if you sing their praises instead of their shortcomings.

[-] pohart@programming.dev 4 points 7 months ago

I get what your saying, but i feel like the aggressively public development model means that more could be public here than i would accept on another team.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

This probably helped others not to make the same mistake

[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 8 points 7 months ago

Of working with Linus? Yes, it probably did.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 7 months ago

What? I'm talking about breaking userspace?

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 42 points 7 months ago

I'm really glad you added this, that was pretty awful to read.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

It's sad we don't get this energy anymore. Who will keep the fuckers in line now

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