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President Joe Biden pleaded with Republicans on Wednesday for a fresh infusion of military aid for Ukraine, warning that a victory for Russia over Ukraine would leave Moscow in position to attack NATO allies and could draw U.S. troops into a war.

Biden spoke as the United States planned to announce $175 million in additional Ukraine aid from its dwindling supply of money for Kyiv. He signaled a willingness to make significant changes to U.S. migration policy along the border with Mexico to try to draw Republican support.

"If Putin takes Ukraine, he won’t stop there," Biden said. Putin will attack a NATO ally, he predicted, and then "we’ll have something that we don't seek and that we don't have today: American troops fighting Russian troops," Biden said.

“We can’t let Putin win,” he said, prompting an angry reaction from Moscow.

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[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

The problem is for the American government the answer is also a no brainer, but they don't agree with you on the specifics of that no brainer. Israel will always get what it asks for because its a de facto US army base. Look at how the rest of the MIC hamstrings the budget, fails audits, then gets budget increases.

[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're probably right. I just wish we didn't live in a world where innocent human lives are often considered the cost of doing business.

[–] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Many of the evils of buisness are hidden in what economists would call 'externalities'. Which in essence are consequences that you don't have to pay for. Human cost has been factored in from the begining and named such that it sounds 'external' to the system when really it's part and parcel of it. Something like most of the forbes 500 would not be profitable if they were liable for their own externalities. Buisnesses on every level are subsidized by the taxpayer and the degradation of local resources or environment that should have been for the public.

[–] oatscoop@midwest.social 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

-- and "stabilizing element" in the middle east. Israel gets a lot of leeway because they've proven they have a capable military, intelligence agency, etc. And they're not at all squeamish about using them.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Capable military intelligence

Oct 7 happened

Pick one

[–] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Most people consider the US to have somewhat capable intelligence, but 9/11 still happened.

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes but word is that they had plenty of intelligence about a major operation. So it wasn't a lack of intelligence as much as arrogance in the leadership, at best. At worst, well you'd have to get into some dark conspiracy theory.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

They bombed a car with a grandma and her three grandkids in Lebanon saying they were terrorists. Israeli "intelligence" is nothing more than AI over satalite imagery and web scaping.

It's worthless if they just gather a mountain of information but can't filter any real useful intel from it.