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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And some were simply virulent pieces of shit.

enough that slavery, racism, sex/gender inequality, the inherent exploitation of a capitalist system, and many other terrible things were enshrined into our constitution from the start.

as for their cohorts whose noble and enlightened ideas fell to the wayside? well, when they could stand up to a king but wither at the idea of standing up to their peers - especially in the name of profitability - there could hardly be argued to have been any honor in it. This just sounds like the "it's a few bad apples" bs we hear whenever there's some news story about police bruality/corruption.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

enough that slavery, racism, sex/gender inequality, the inherent exploitation of a capitalist system, and many other terrible things were enshrined into our constitution from the start.

Well... Yes. That's how politics work. You need to live with and agree with those people about how we're going to govern society. What do you expect to happen?

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That, in retrospect, we would see them for who they really were, not for who we wished they were. 

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Please. This is the MAGA philosophy. Kick and scream until you get what you want and burn everything down if you don't. 🙄

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Uh… I’m not following you. Reading what I’ve said, how could you connect me with their philosophy? How could you say that the simple act of protest equals MAGA philosophy?

Look, I don’t really think you believe that. And I’m not trying to shut anyone down. What I’m trying to say is that the founding fathers were a lot more flawed than most people realize, and we should stop worshipping them. It’s time we moved on and started forging a new republic founded on modern concepts of equality and equity rather than the compromised, elitist, and extremely bigoted attitudes of 300 years ago.

OK?