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President Joe Biden pleaded with Republicans on Wednesday for a fresh infusion of military aid for Ukraine, warning that a victory for Russia over Ukraine would leave Moscow in position to attack NATO allies and could draw U.S. troops into a war.

Biden spoke as the United States planned to announce $175 million in additional Ukraine aid from its dwindling supply of money for Kyiv. He signaled a willingness to make significant changes to U.S. migration policy along the border with Mexico to try to draw Republican support.

"If Putin takes Ukraine, he won’t stop there," Biden said. Putin will attack a NATO ally, he predicted, and then "we’ll have something that we don't seek and that we don't have today: American troops fighting Russian troops," Biden said.

“We can’t let Putin win,” he said, prompting an angry reaction from Moscow.

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[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Remember, even Germany’s Third Reich didn’t set out to perpetrate a genocide, but circumstances drove them to it.

Whaaaa? Mein Kampf was written in 1925. Genocide was planned from before Nazis were even in power.

No circumstances drove them to it.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I chose those words carefully, and said Third Reich, not Hitler. Even the moniker "the final solution" comes from "the final solution to the Jewish question," which implies that it had tried other solutions previously. The Nazis wanted Jews out of Germany, and as such had done things like encourage Jewish emigration to Palestine before the war. Then they escalated to pogroms and work camps, and before deciding on a Holocaust because they were ~~losing the war and~~ (edit, in retrospect not the correct interpretation) running low on resources, and that was the most expedient way to clear Jews out of Germany.

It's worth remembering that history, since Israel now seems to be on a similar trajectory with Palestinians.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Then they escalated to pogroms and work camps, and before deciding on a Holocaust

Extermination was planned from the beginning and started before Germany had lost a single battle. Germany wasn't forced into Holocaust because they were losing the war.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp

[–] blunderworld@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think what they meant is that Hitler never dreamt he'd gain enough influence to actually make his vision a reality. He thought he may be able to integrate more land into Germany, for instance, but carrying out a genocide in practice is far more complicated than wishing for a genocide in theory.

Circumstances such as German outrage over the treaty of Versailles, the power vacuum surrounding the failing health (and eventual death) of Hindenburg, and unlikely alliances with players such as Japan and the Soviet Union, lent themselves to Hitler pursuing his actual goal of genocide.

That being said, I'm basing all of this on some episodes of Real Dictators I listened to this week, so take my points with a grain of salt.