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I don't expect Joe Biden to act against his interests, but I also can't believe he thinks this is in his interest! Are there that many people in America who think this is the right thing to do? People danced when Henry Kissinger died, who fails to see the legacy of this?
He's banking on "trump bad, I good". So many idiots are falling for this and will chase you out of the room with their pitchforks if you said you won't vote for genocide Biden.
Sitting out in the next presidential election is a vote for "I'll be a dictator" Trump. That's just the way it is.
I've heard this same sentence literally every single elections.
Is it not true? Is this another shit sandwich vs giant douchebag argument?
It is true, but I believe it's manufactured. It's done on purpose. I'm personally not falling for it again. I'm done with voting for the "lesser of two evils".
Don't be naive. What's happening now is the result of a pattern in human behavior which has played out countless times before. It may be cathartic to throw your arms up and say "nothing matters and everything is a lie, burn it all" but that's not productive and it will allow the greater of many evils to win.
Oh, I think he can bank on that. What I see is people looking to third parties. I just don't think anything good will come of that.
Personally, I can't honestly threaten to vote against him, but I do understand other people feeling differently, and I definitely wish he'd make it less gross for me.
Middle America. Specifically people in purple states. Biden is coming into an election that’s sounding like it’s going to be won by 5 votes or lost by a million. He’s trying to win support in swing states. Unfortunately those swing state voters tend to be union guys, who are more conservative. They like a blue collar guy, but they want him to have hardline stances on things. We’re hearing conflicting things from this administration for a reason. A veto on the UN makes headlines and sounds like the US is being supportive, but we’re also hearing about back room conversations where the administration is voicing their disapproval of the bombing and threatening to withhold funding. I imagine if this was before the war in Ukraine we would see a different reaction by the Biden Administration. Plus Israel gives us a launch point into middle eastern operations.
That makes little sense. Why would blue collar workers support Israel’s genocidal bombardment campaign? It’s not in their interest. The UAW is even calling for a ceasefire.
Also, the Biden administration can claim all day that they are in back room negotiations with Israel. However, those claims ring hollow when they’re simultaneously trying to pass bills in congress that unconditionally give Israel military aid. People see that and naturally lose faith in anything the administration says.
Sadly because of the higher incidence of nationalism, racism, and Islamophobia among such folk which means they don't care enough or are outright in favor of turning brown people into skeletons
Have you ever talked with some of them? My whole damn family is full of this exact type of person. Do you not remember how many of those people were willing to bomb multiple countries for 20+ years just to hunt down Osama Bin Laden?
The Biden admin is joining Israeli aid with Ukrainian aid. They’re trying to get some on the right to pass aid for Israel so we can fund Ukraine.
Many blue collar, support who tells them what they want to hear. God (Jesus) is great, white people are best, and libs bad... Even though it's against their interests, that's conservative/Trump.
Not only that but Israel still provides a lot of spy tech. Local US law enforcement have been using Israeli tools to get into peoples' phone records, or even the phones themselves.