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fear of competition spurs automakers to make competitive products. FTFY
Asians bad, especially big C /s
Not "Asians". Companies that follow the CCP's policies and ways of doing business.
What you did was typical pro-CCP misdirection. You took "fear of cheap Chinese EVs" and ran with that to "Asians bad". Chinese are not all Asians and the CCP is not a race.
https://youtu.be/yOA7qKMcjcE
Edit: https://youtu.be/qKa8mVOe5so
Idk, I didn't feel like they were pushing an agenda, can't say the same about you.
The generic application of “Asian” has been established as a habit of the ignorant. I have an example.
I don't know how that's a response to me but thanks for the funny clip
The conflation of "Asians" being always applied to China is a common CCP propaganda tactic. There are many Asian countries, like Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, etc. These places are known for good quality products. They are all Asian. So yes, pushing the racism angle on commentary of products coming from a country not known for quality is an agenda. And to be clear, I didn't say "China doesn't make quality products", I said it's not known for quality. Which is different from say bad quality outright.
The mere use of the words "cheap Chinese" in the title here is meant to inspire racism though. It's intentional too. Our government encourages and spreads it to encourage Americans to view themselves as better or more valuable than Chinese people. It works.
China is just the new Japan. And on copyright, the US was big on intellectual piracy for decades and even had government department dedicated to stealing intellectual property from the British Empire.
Your cheque from the CCP is in the mail
Edit: I welcome the downvotes from the wumao
That's right, everyone that disagrees with you is a paid Chinese shill; you see very well adjusted.
Nah, more like people are tired of the "whataboutism"
Idk what whataboutism you're referring to, this comment chain started with someone referencing yellow peril and someone else getting triggered about it.
The downvote bots are out in force. No more Ukraine discourse to target for now I suppose.
Yup. Once you go down the rabbit hole of what kind of CCP propaganda gets pushed constantly, it's eye watering. I've been to China at its peak (2011), and I have multiple Chinese family members born and raised in China. The propaganda is no joke. It's subtle and everywhere. You say "I think Chinese EVs aren't safe", then you'll start getting accused of attacking "Asians", which is a classic technique to push the argument from "manufacturing practices" right over to racism.
I've never seen anyone get accused of attacking Asians for such a thing but I've seen "Chinese propaganda" to dismiss comments often.
I think the main discussion right now is that western car companies are stalling the transition out of greed and getting the government to help them by banning the competition. This seems like oil company meddling to me.
Your hate boner is causing you to completely miss the picture. For all this talk about propaganda, you are literally spewing out oil industry talking points.
Not at all. My original comment in this thread was replying to a comment that made it seem another person was vilifying "Asians" as opposed to talking about the technology.
If you're talking about my other comments in this post, then that's still not true. I'm not saying, and haven't said, that EVs are bad. I'm saying China is contributing to massive amounts of ecological damage. They produce massive amounts of of e-bikes and EVs, and then throw them into a field never to be used. This is being done to meet quotas so they can get government subsidies, and to boost numbers.
It's not about the damage of making batteries and other components, it's the damage being done by creating those things at such a scale that a lot of it is wasteful and unnecessary. And to top it off, there's going to be even more damage as those vehicles rot in those huge fields and leach harmful stuff into the ground.
So no, I'm not "spewing out oil industry talking points". I hate that people just assume what you're saying without taking a moment to understand the context. The oil industry is among the nastiest groups of people to ever live, but that doesn't give EV makers a free pass to do whatever. The reality is that, right now, making EVs is a dirty process. So it has to be done right and carefully, otherwise we won't be around to see the benefits.
Fear of automakers from country where slave labor is legal. FTFY
Unregulated capitalism loves slavery, we just like to pretend it's not there because it's in a country with people who speak a different language (mostly).
More like lobby for anticompetitive import laws.
FOCO