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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (94 children)

science can test the hypothesis that astrology is accurate in various ways

This is true

theory is able to accurately predict the world around us then it is still a good theory

This is also true

The moment you start making absolute statements based on the above, no matter how unanimous the evidence, you have left the realm of science and your brain begins to succumb to the rot. If we treated well supported models as gospel, we'd still be using the Newtonian gravitational model.

The entire point of science is to admit the fundamental uncertainty of all human knowledge, and develop the tools to develop better models. Yes, every model is wrong. Some allow us to make very accurate predictions, but they are all imperfect approximations.

No scientific model justifies absolute certainty

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Yet every time astrology is tested it has failed.

Evolution is basically a scientific certainty at this point because every single test has shown it to be true, and no one has every been able to disprove it. We don;t understand every single nuance and mechanism of evolution, but the fact evolution is occurring and has occurred in the past is a certainty.

Gravity is a certainty at this point. Again we don't fully understand the exact causes of gravity, but the fact it exists is certain.

And every test to try and show any validity to astrology has failed, astrology is nothing but a scam.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works -2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

Again, I tested it, I found some evidence of success. You can say that that test isn't statistically significant, you can question my methodologies, but you cannot say that every test has failed.

This conversation isn't about astrology, I don't believe in astrology. This conversation is about mental hygiene, and the creeping fundamentalism that stifles scientific progress. Certainty is unscientific.

[–] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago

That is not a scientific test. I've already told you, you fell prey to the Barnum effect.

And no, the only unscientific thing in this conversation is you insisting a data point of 1 with no controls is you somehow testing it.

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