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[–] harcesz@szmer.info 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

I still have a lot of love for Mozilla, maybe since I've started using... Mozilla and even some of the recent steps of the management did not change that. But it would seem doing something like idk - integrating Fediverse elements into the browser, or pushing the concept further in some other way would be a bigger step forward, than launching an instance. Still good, sounds like a no-brainer to have one for staff/supporters, but does not push this concept as far as Mozilla has the potential to. Unless that's an element of some bigger plan I've missed?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Unless that's an element of some bigger plan I've missed?

Actually, yes! In a Verge interview, Mitchell Baker said, "The first step is to actually be an active participant in that world and do some learning." Link. I'm hopeful that this is the first step toward making ActivityPub a part of the browser, which would go a long way toward elevating it to a staple of the modern web. (As a side note, I'd love it if they extended that sort of idea to RSS as well)

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Knew about it but first time I bothered to read it and there is a bit more than just that, but hard to tell if there's any strong commitment. Have to wait and see I guess. Thanks for that link.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, I hope so too. I mean, it's hard to make any commitments without knowing what the needs would be; the need can be anything on a spectrum from "just money" to "more maintainers," to "new products" or "bigger ecosystem," all the way up to "help with governance" or "a forked codebase." It could also be anything in between or any combination. Committing your whole organization to it before you know what the commitment is feels unwise, so I get it. But I agree, I want them to say more and do more soon.

[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 10 points 10 months ago

Vivaldi used their Web Panels feature to promote their instance, and Mastodon has a decent vertical UI so it made it easy for them to add it through that it seems.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago

I think this is only a small part of their fediverse experiments

There's a lot that a browser could help with here, or even better apps and tools to make things easier

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)
[–] LennethAegis@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

I feel like having your own instance is a solid first step before adding any kind of integration so they have a controlled feed of content to work with.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i got a vision of the aim buddy list popping up in my netscape while reading your comment.

do i want seamonkey back? yes. absolutely. how can we get seamonkey back?

[–] Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure SeaMonkey is still being updated. Probably won't be replacing anyone's main browser or anything, but it's there.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the chat client is still just irc. thunderbird does xmpp and matrix now. thunderbird also does contacts, calendaring, RSS feeds,and supports opening most links inside thunderbird....

o! thunderbird is the new netscape! how did I miss it??

[–] Contort3860@links.hackliberty.org 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I've always wanted to try SeaMonkey. It seems like such an interesting idea, but it just can't replace Firefox or Thunderbird for me.

[–] harcesz@szmer.info 2 points 10 months ago

I just did and my lemmy instance doesn't work on it, so that was a fast test. Also opening up new windows instead of tabs/bars kinda kills the idea for me. Still a single integrated piece of software to manage all of these funky protocol streams seems like an attractive concept.