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[–] Adderbox76@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

So you're saying I'm weird because I love history for history's sake and not any particular political reason?

I am interested in the world wars, among many other things. Everything from 1940s/50s Hollywood scandal and crime to The Bronze Age Collapse and lots of other stuff in between.

I majored in Near Eastern Classical Archaeology, but I never equated any of it with particular personal beliefs.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago (2 children)

So you’re saying I’m weird because I love history for history’s sake and not any particular political reason?

Literally no. The first group of people is exactly what you're describing.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Nah I am pretty sure we all know what you were saying. Go ahead and backtrack some more, it is amusing how you are aborting your own position.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Hyperdefensiveness looks really bad. We all like stuff that has terrible fan bases. I'm into anime/manga/manhwa, video games, and I do enjoy history and learning from it. I so know many people who share the same description who are straight up nazis, misogynists, incels, etc.

If this is like the MIAC report, where it noted data on both right wing and left wing domestic terrorists and some of their tendencies. For left wing it mentioned environmentalists, socialists, communists etc. For right wing it mentioned 2A, Ron Paul, sovereign city, tax protestors etc.

In no way for either side did it say that having those tendencies was the same as being a terrorist, just that they tend to have those interests. Right wing grifters and broadcasters lost their fucking .inds to the point this fact based report had to be retracted.

If you can't acknowledge your interests have terrible fan bases as well as good and upstanding ones, it makes you look like the terrible one angry at being called out.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It is not on the person being stereotyped to justify themselves. Like what you like, study what you want to study and don't bully a person for being a nerd about something.

Seriously, is this the position you and OP want to be in? You want people to be walking on earth and feeling bad because they studied some subject and presumably were a bit happy because of it? You want to feel good about taking a harmless pleasure from someone else, and for what exactly? Because you didn't understand it and felt dumb for a moment. Go look in a mirror and maybe reconsider your life.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Wow, you are amazing at missing the point. So let's ask this, are there any people who like the same things as you that are horrible people? I'll answer for me, you betcha. Are there people who like the same things as me who are better people than me? Again yes.

Can you say the same? Can you acknowledge that?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I don't have to acknowledge jack or shit. If you think that everyone who knows about WW2 is a Nazi it isn't on me to "not all" you. It is on you for not being able to process that other people know things that you do not.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world -1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You are arguing with a troll. Save your effort. Every single comment of theirs on this post is low effort nonsense or open harassment. Just block them and move on with your life.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Say it directly next time instead of cowardly hiding

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works -3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

never drop your guard though

Literally yes, they explicitly say the history buff still shouldn't be trusted.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Literally no. They do not say a history buff shouldn't be trusted. They say do not drop your guard when getting to know them initially. This is a pretty safe and reasonable course of action for getting to know any human. History buff is irrelevant to that statement.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

Literally no. They said don't trust people who understand something that you don't.

[–] Jax@sh.itjust.works 0 points 9 months ago

Crazy, considering the words that precede them are they are likely safe.

If you think that's trust you're a broken human being.