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[–] psud@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So they can up their investment income from $1B to $1.0001B

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I looked up the University of Cincinnati's finances once because I never realized they were public. I think UC owns non-liquid non-realestate assets somewhere in the 30billion range. They still ask for donations, despite the fact they could give free education to every student for multiple years.

[–] psud@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's nuts how wealthy some of those universities are. Several could easily provide free education and still turn a profit

I wonder if they use tuition fees mostly for rationing aceess

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Most donations are restricted to the purpose of the donation. You'd need to know how much of the endowment is for scholarships. Sometimes schools will have an immense amount of money, but can't actually lower tuition because the money is tied up in other things. If I give money for an endowment that supports future replacement of electron microscopes, that does fuck all for your tuition.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I give money for an endowment that supports future replacement of electron microscopes, that does fuck all for your tuition.

Presuming of course that they absolutely weren't going to replace those microscopes without that endowment. If they were, then that endowment frees up some money elsewhere in the budget. Unless literally every penny they hold has strings attached, then the fungibility of money means they could use general fund money they aren't spending on X because of an endowment on Y instead.

[–] MonkRome@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Presuming of course that they absolutely weren't going to replace those microscopes without that endowment.

In many, if not most, cases there would never be room in a budget for an electron microscope at your average mid sized or small school. Keep in mind we're talking about a million+ dollar expenditure.

In many cases improvements like a building or an electron microscope absolutely hinge almost entirely on donations, that's why they are so attractive to a donor. They can make real lasting improvements to a college or university that wouldn't otherwise exist.

Even the endowed scholarships that go to assist with tuition are never as big as people think. If you have a $100,000 endowed scholarship. The school is likely only giving $4,500 of that out each year so they can grow the endowment at the same rate they give out money, thereby ensuring future students get more help.

I'll paraphrase a real world example. School X has a $100 million dollar endowment, with $65 million going to endowed scholarships, that's only ~$3 million a year for tuition relief. That same school is looking at a $45 million a year budget. Certainly they could chose to spend down their endowment and give their students 2 years of free school... And then what? Pass on the 3 million a year budget shortfall to future students?

I work in higher Ed, I agree the system is broken, but most schools endowments come no where near being able to give free tuition.

[–] Vorticity@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, people like to have their names on physical things so they pay for more buildings rather than paying for scholarships.