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[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago (3 children)

But now your responsible, climate-concerned genes have been removed from the gene-pool.

[–] magnetosphere@kbin.social 40 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I’m not going to force children to live in a future I have no faith in just so I can say I’m part of the “gene pool”. It’s unfair to make them pay the costs for several lifetimes of greed and irresponsibility. To me, that’s exceptionally arrogant and cruel.

I hope I’m wrong, but I’m not willing to bet my child’s future on that.

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm worried about an Idiocracy scenario. If all the people that care about the climate and environment decide that not having kids is a solution, we're just going to be left with all the irresponsible idiots reproducing. It's like choosing not to vote because you don't like either candidate.

[–] Captainvaqina@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We're already in the idiocracy scenario.

Except instead of President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Comacho, we have a confirmed fascist traitor running for office.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

That argument smacks dangerously of eugenics. Conservative and religious parents have leftist and atheist kids all the time. My spouse and I are both from families like that, and won't be teaching our kids those values because they're bat shit.

You can see how both ideologies are self defeating in how the rates of practicing Christians in the US is dwindling, and the ultra conservative base is aging faster than they're being replaced. That's why they're pushing abortion and gutting school systems so hard. The only way they replinish their numbers is through force and sabotage.

[–] ribboo@lemm.ee -4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Very few people who live, regret having lived. That is, even people who go through the toughest of times. I’d pick being born today in a lower income family, over not being born, 100 times out of 100.

If you feel like you’ll be a capable parent, it is not at all cruel.

[–] Chobbes@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I don’t know if this is as true as you think. There are plenty of people who don’t want to be here and don’t particularly enjoy life. I think it’s kind of hard to know how many people feel this way too because it’s a bit of a taboo subject. I wouldn’t say “very few” though, you’ve probably met several such people even if you didn’t know.

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Progeny are highly unpredictable and rebellious anyway

Adoption, teaching others that aren't your blood relatives, are viable