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I mean come on! Like, sure ok then, please go on ahead.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (5 children)

SCOTUS would have to rule that States can not hold their own elections which would violate the Consitution. Odds are they won't hear the case.

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can't they just reinterpret the insurrection clause? That has no besring on states holding their own elections.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Most clauses are pretty legalize, but Congress wrote the 14th Amendment in plain English.

[–] ashok36@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

And amendments supercede all preceding verbiage in the constitution. The only way out of being disqualified by the 14th is to have congress vote on it as provided for in the amendment.

[–] Yondoza@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

I agree with your sentiment, it seems like clear language to me. Unfortunately a lower court in Colorado had already interpreted the presidency as not "being an officer of the United States". SCOTUS could easily just uphold that previous ruling while not weighing into a states election laws. (I think IANAL)

[–] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

I disagree slightly. It doesn't specify that the president is included under "officers", but that would be the most reasonable interpretation by far.

There's no way, when it was written, they were leaving a loophole for Jefferson Davis to run for president!

[–] JakenVeina@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

SCOTUS these days can and will make up whatveer the fuck rationalization they want to justify any decision, and then tagline it with "but this only applies to this one specific scenario" to keep from locking themselves out of ruling the opposite way next time.

Last year (or earlier this year?) they ruled on a case where the event that triggered the suit was literally made up and never happened, and everyone knew it.

[–] WetBeardHairs@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

No, all they have to do is say that the POTUS is not an "Officer" therefore loophole for exactly one person in history.

[–] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

They've nearly done it before with the 2000 election.

[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

they'll figure out some way to make it a "compelled speech" issue that violates the first amendment.