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[–] dingus@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I have been having some mental health issues, and I was reading about this the other day. I was going through wikipedia with the various types of antidepressants, and it seems that SSRIs are just barely better than placebo, or even in studies not even better than placebo.

I know there are multiple classes of antidepressants out there. Are there any that do a better job, even if they are not as common?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

There's different definitions of depression, for one.

And "do a better job" is going to be defined by the individual.

But there are SSRIs, SNRIs and SDRIs like Wellbutrin. They have vastly different side effects and play on different systems (serotonin, norepinephrine and dopamine) many people find SNRIs to be more effective, but again it's all the individual.

[–] Jakdracula@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Placebos just prove that your body can heal you, it just chooses not to.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

So then what does one do to heal it?

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago
[–] swordsmanluke@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

If you're suffering from depression, look into Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS). After over a decade on SSRIs and other meds had failed, it turned my life around in six months. Literally life saving.

The effectiveness is proven (at much better rates than SSRIs), but the exact mechanism is under study.

But... There was a recent study that suggested that many cases of depression are caused by misordered neuron firing, where the emotional center of the brain fires before the "imagine the future" bit finishes firing. Normally, when a healthy brain imagines a future state, the emotional center fires in response to our anticipated feeling. (Imagination: We're going to the movies. Emotions: FUN) But in a depressed brain, the emotional core fires immediately, resulting in the current, crappy mood being applied to every imagined future. (Emotions: Everything is shit. Imagination: We're going to the movies?)

TMS may work as well as it does because one of the things it does is increase neuroplasticity, allowing the brain to correctly order the firing of our emotional response to imagined futures.

Anyway - TMS is right at the edges of our understanding of treating depression, but it really does work for a supermajority of patients.

For me, I went from having literally lost all emotions and being essentially dead (and being willing to die), to feeling... normal. I haven't had a major depressive episode in the two years since. It's been liberating.

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I duno about any that work, but if a dr offers you effexor tell them hell fucking no. Everyone I have talked to about it agrees its fucking absolutely awful. Worst drug I have ever taken.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What sort of problems did you have with it?

[–] GnomeKat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Effexor as some awful side effects. I have seen people complain about brain zaps but I didn't get them. For me I kept getting this weird lagging feeling in my body, like my perception of my limbs was lagging behind where they were in this very weird feeling way. Its very hard to explain but it was very uncomfortable feeling, every movement of my head was accompanied with this weird feeling. After I quit the drug the issue persisted for months after, it was legit fucked I was scared it would never go away but eventually it did.

Also effexor triggered multiple manic episodes where I was hearing voices and didn't sleep for a week. Like legit psychosis. I haven't had any episodes that bad before taking effexor and none since I quit it as well. I can honestly say it made my mental health issues infinitely worse, shit is a demon drug. TBH I don't fuck with psych drugs anymore because of my experience with effexor.