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EDIT: Let's cool it with the downvotes, dudes. We're not out to cut funding to your black hole detection chamber or revoke the degrees of chiropractors just because a couple of us don't believe in it, okay? Chill out, participate with the prompt and continue with having a nice day. I'm sure almost everybody has something to add.

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[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 74 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Can we not push more anti science rhetoric please

[–] BigBlackBuck@lemmynsfw.com 55 points 9 months ago (2 children)

This is like the second or third post I have seen in the past week talking about “belief” in science. Science isn’t about belief, it’s about understanding. Maybe this post should be, “What facts are you questioning because you don’t understand the underlying data?”

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Seriously. Science just is. I don’t care if you believe it or not. It still is what it is.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What it is, is an extremely powerful tool for reducing uncertainty about the world. Not eliminate, reduce. What it is not is a tool for "proving" "facts". Claiming a "proven fact" is belief, not empirical science. An extremely consistent and useful theory, of course! But not a proven fact.

[–] ani@endlesstalk.org 28 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Chill science should be questioned otherwise it's not science

[–] force@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

Science should be questioned by people who understand the science, not by random people who don't understand the research. Which a lot of people who know nothing about the science or the maths/data or whatever try to question it

[–] AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

Right, all the people talking shit about dark matter in this thread surely all have 4 PhDs up their ass

No investigation, no right to speak

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is a really stupid take, how do you think new scientists are made if not reaching for enlightenment to answer their own questions?

Science is about being wrong and learning.

[–] force@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, and people that challenge the science who then become scientists actually research/experiment thenselves. They don't go and claim science is false until they have actual reason/evidence to believe so. One can question science all they want when they do their own science on the matter and it isn't handily disproved beyond reasonable doubt by existing evidence.

Most science deniers do not do that. Making anti-science claims without obtaining solid, consistent evidence is not science.

[–] ani@endlesstalk.org 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

People are free to express what they think about science. There's no law saying otherwise. Why are you guys so upset?

[–] force@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

"There's no law against it" is a laughably stupid reason to do something. They're free to do it but everyone else is free to acknowledge that their uneducated/misinformed skepticism is harmful to society and that their opinions are meaningless to those who aren't dumb. Leave the contemporary science denial to those who actually somewhat know what they're talking about.

The person you're replying to believes climate change to be a lie, so I think you're probably wasting your time.

[–] ani@endlesstalk.org -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is a question on AskLemmy. It won't change anything in the world. Why do you care? You guys should touch grass

[–] force@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] ani@endlesstalk.org -2 points 9 months ago

Let's touch grass together to measure how much photosynthesis grass can do? Please, it will be fun. But I'm open to another scientific experiment if you have anything in mind