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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What would you call impregnating someone without consent? Sounds akin to rape to me.

But tbh that's the least of the dodgy parts of Christianity/Abrahamic religions in general

[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Does religion teach that she didn't give consent?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's interesting. Can you give me more information so I can learn more about it myself?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The story changes depending on which book of the new testament you read, but it essentially boils down to

  • Mary becomes pregnant out of nowhere and is somehow aware of it and that it was god who did it (but never agreed to it)

  • Mary is visited by an angel who tells her god will impregnate her very soon

  • Mary is visited by an angel who tells her god will impregnate her very soon, Mary is afraid but says yes

I'm going to be extremely charitable here and go with that last option, that's still kinda messed up.

We already know that a power imbalance can make it seem like you have to accept their advances "or else" (think Harvey Weinstein or someone groomed by their priest or a family member).

The power imbalance here is between a teenage girl and the person she knows, from the Old Testament/Torah, to be an all-powerful, vengeful, genocidal, and sadistic deity. She doesn't really have a choice but to go ahead with it. Does that sound like real consent to you?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] chitak166@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I did and it says nothing about Mary being raped.

If you could clarify what part of the Bible says that, then your comment would matter.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No you didn't.