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Analysts have warned Windows 10 end of life plans could spark a global torrent of e-waste, with millions of devices expected to be scrapped in the coming years. 

Research from Canalys shows that up to 240 million PCs globally could be terminated as a result of the shift over to Windows 11, raising critical questions about device refreshes and the responsibility of vendors to extend life cycles.

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[–] darkfiremp3@beehaw.org 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I don’t think it’s fair to jump on Microsoft for this one. Windows 10 has been out for almost 10 years. Apple gives less support for systems than 10 years, they are closer to 8, which is still a while.

If you bought a PC in 2018 or later it should support tpm in the CPU, if it doesn’t it’s on Dell or HP or whomever made the system. If you built a pc you can buy a TPM for most motherboards.

Microsoft said you can pay for updates for windows 10 if you want. If your parents core i5-2700 with 4gb of ram from 2012 will no longer get free updates… that seems fair… or go to Linux, but we know most people won’t. Honestly it would be a great time for a “convert to chromeOS installer”

[–] helpmyusernamewontfi 10 points 11 months ago

I don’t think it’s fair to jump on Microsoft for this one. Windows 10 has been out for almost 10 years. Apple gives less support for systems than 10 years, they are closer to 8, which is still a while.

it is absolutely fair to blame Microsoft, because they promised their customers, device manufacturers, and even businesses that Windows 10 was going to be their last OS, and flipped that switch out of nowhere when they realized they could be making more money.

Windows 12 supposedly going to be subscription based I feel like is a great example.

[–] TheFriendlyArtificer@beehaw.org 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I think that it's absolutely fair to jump on Microsoft for this.

There is nothing wrong with this hardware. RAM and CPU clock speed plateaued a long time ago. The overwhelming majority of these systems being thrown away would run Linux flawlessly.

Microsoft has never given a damn about security before. These new security "features" do more to lock people in than they do to keep them safe.

[–] noddy@beehaw.org 1 points 11 months ago

This. It is so sad that these companies get to set arbitrary expiration dates on perfectly good hardware for "security" features nobody asked for. They keep getting away with planned obsolesence and monopolistic moves, by fearmongering about security. Even if the "solutions" does nothing to secure the users. The only thing they care about securing is their profit.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I think the point of contention is that Windows 10 works fine, there is no need to move to Windows 11 except that Microsoft has found new ways to monetise the OS through its data, so they are making Windows 10 end of life

[–] hascat@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

Exactly. I use 10 at home and at work and have no issues with either. There's no technical reason for anyone to upgrade.