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[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (23 children)

Israel is not "Jewish people". Israel "could" end without a single Jew dying. Also, Jews lived there when it was Palestine. I dunno did they die when it became Israel? How are you arriving at the end of a concept being mass murder?

I think if Israel stopped trying to run itself as an ethnostate they'd be fine. I think there's an argument that the "concept" of what currently constitutes Israel may be too tainted to realistically save. Many unwilling to admit fault, apologize, and return what was stolen. And many unwilling to forgive them for doing it. It would take real concession and change. Something those in charge don't want. So the people both Israeli and Palestinian will continue to suffer for the gains of wealthy genocidal bigots.

[–] DeadHorseX@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (17 children)

There's no scenario, in any possible world, in which the 'abolition' of Israel doesn't result in the deaths of millions of Jews.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

there are many worlds where the abolition of Israel wouldn't result in the deaths of Jewish people, unless you swallow the fascist dichotomy of "Israel is the only safe place for Jews" and "Israel is inherently in danger, due to group X"

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