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[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 17 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Then the democratic party should make the most basic effort to condemn genocide. I wont vote for the support of genocide. It's really not a high bar. It's frankly pathetic that you are suggesting we have accept that. That makes you explicitly in support of the ethnic cleansing of gaza and the people of Palestine. You are evil.

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm evil? Strong language for someone suggesting Trump is a worse alternative than Biden.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 5 points 8 months ago

You are evil and acting in bad faith. It's hard to imagine how you think wanting a president who will condemn genocide means supporting trump. You don't, you want to continue the dishonest dialog that the only discourse is we must accept the democratic party as is or else. What it is a threat and acting in bad faith.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Plenty of them are. But you're willing to toss them all out with a figurehead. The AICP is currently campaigning against several Democrats for calling out the genocide .Yeah Biden's out of touch and a bit problematic. But this is the height of self-defeating virtue signaling. Not that it has stopped a lot of you in the past. San timoniously and hypocritically criticizing everyone else while doing nothing to make the situation actually better. Soothing your own conscience with trying to convince yourself that you're meaningless gesture was worth it.

Biden is what we are saddled with and it could be far worse. You need to take care of business this election cycle and the moment it's over start pushing better people for 2028 or sooner.

[–] VentraSqwal@links.dartboard.social 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's what people said last election. We always have to push them to be better the next election. Always settle for worse. What a shit electoral system the US has. And the hilarious part is that unless that person you're talking to lives in a swing state their vote probably doesn't matter anyway.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What if I hate America? Who should I vote for? 🤔

[–] bitrate@lemmy.world 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In the US no vote is a republican vote. I know you don't like to hear it but its the way it is. The fewer people that vote the higher their chances go up.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Then the democratic party should make the most minimal effort to win by standing against genocide.

[–] bitrate@lemmy.world -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No offense, but I really hope you are young and that's the reason you are this naive. The next president is going to be either a democrat or a republican. Denying that reality so you can feel better about yourself is doing the people of Gaza no favors. You have no power of the situation and especially if you are in a swing state, the only thing you can do to help them is to keep the republicans out of the white house.

I actually understand your thought process, I used to be the same way. I wish third parties were viable too and I wish we had better options, but right now, the best chance you personally can give Gaza is voting Democrat.