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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 23 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Pretty sure you‘re only using the r-bomb and „mental issues“ in a joking way but its kind of not funny.

Musk is a spoiled, unempathetic, overhyped idiot who claims to be autistic… perfect example that autistic people can be cretins as well.

But a lot of autistic people are getting called the r-word and its not ok. Mental (health) issues are not a stigma. They are okay and normal. Being an asshole isnt normal or okay though.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

By definition you can't be normal if you're neurodivergent...

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

By the "divergent" part of the word, you're right.

It would be like saying "it's normal to be abnormal". While it's true that not everybody is identical, and everyone has their quirks, by defintion "abnormal" is not "normal".

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com -2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No idea if you‘re trying to offend people but „not normal“ is a term used to exclude people from a social group. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/normal

The term used to distinguish from is „typical“.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

From the very source you provided:

[...] by Late Latin normālis had also come to mean "according to a rule", from which modern English senses of the word derive: in the 1800s, as people began to quantitatively study things like height and weight and blood pressure, the usual or most common values came to be referred to as "normal", and by extension values regarded as healthy or desirable came to be called "normal" regardless of their usuality.

I don't think anyone of sane mind would argue against the notion that it's more desirable, and by definition healthier, to be born neurotypical than neurodivergent.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

just exchange the word neurodivergent with black or jewish and neurotypical with white or christian and you see the problem.

Provided you are “sane”.

[–] Gabu@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

"Just completely change your argument and it becomes problematic" is hardly convincing. In fact, you've committed a classic logical fallacy.

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yesh kinda weird how ok a lot of the users here are with using the r-word slur.

[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 1 points 10 months ago

A little disturbing, ngl. Some might have grown up in a time or place where getting bullied and mistreated was no bid deal. Its actually good to see these things changing.