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Isn't there a trick where you can ask someone to do a specific hand gesture to get photos verified. That'll still work especially because AI makes fingers look wonky
AI has been able to do fingers for months now. It's moving very rapidly so it's hard to keep up. It doesn't do them perfectly 100% of the time, but that doesn't matter since you can just regenerate it until it gets it right.
"For your verification please close left eye and run two fingers through your hair while eating a cauliflower with whipped cream. Attach a paperclip to your left ear and write your username on your forehead using an orange marker."
And then if the user had done everything requested then the photo is generated, because nobody would do that all in their sane mind 😂
Exactly! If you reply "Fuck you", they know you're a human.
How to eradicate your userbase...
You could probably just set up a time for the person to send a photo, and then give them a keyword to write on the paper, and they must send it within a very short time. Combine that with a weird gesture and it's going to be hard to get a convincing AI replica. Add another layer of difficulty and require photos from multiple angles doing the same things.
Lornas can be supplied to the AI. These are data sets of specific ideas like certain hand gestures, lighting levels, whatever style you need you can fine-tune the general data set with lornas.
I have the minimum requirements to produce art and HQ output takes 2 minutes. Low-quality only takes seconds. I can fine-tune my art on a LQ level, then use the AI to upscale it back to HQ. This is me being desperate, too, using only local software and my own hardware.
Do this through a service or a gpu farm and you can spit it out much quicker. The services I've used are easy to figure out and do great work for free* in a lot of cases.
I think these suggestions will certainly be barriers and I can think of some more stop-gaps, but they won't stop everyone from slipping through the cracks especially as passionate individuals hyper-focus on technology we think in passing continue working on it.
Simpler thing is to just have the user take a video. I've already seen that in practice.
With a shoe on their head and a sharpie up their ass.
A sharpie is a poor and dangerous anal simulator. It is too easy to be sucked in.
Never put things into your bum unless they have a flange
I think the real problem with this as anal simulation is it looks and feels nothing like an anus
But can't you just poop it out again?
I feel like there's a way to get around that... Like if you really wanted, some sort of system to Photoshop the keyword onto the piece of paper. This would allow you to generate the image but also not have to worry ab the AI generating that.
Edit: also does anyone remember that one paper that had to do with a new AI architecture where you could put in some sort of negative image to additionally prompt an AI for a specific shape, output, or position.
Just write on paper and overlay via Photoshop. Photopea has a literal one button click function for that very easy to do. Just blank paper and picture with enough light. Very easy
And it'll get better if loads of verification posts are doing hand signs
"Can you hold up 7 fingers in front of the camera?"
Photo with one hand up
Show us a picture of your hands with the fingers made out of penises
Some AI models have already nailed the fingers, this won't do anything. We need something that we can verify without having to trust the other person. I hate to say it but the block chain might be one of the best ways to authenticate users to avoid bots
Block chains have no inherent capability to perform user authentication.
Blockchains aren't exactly the best at proof of personhood. Usually all they can do is make masquerading as multiple people (a Sybil Attack) more expensive.
That's not to say interesting approaches haven't come out of blockchain-adjacent work, like https://passport.gitcoin.co/.
How would the blockchain help?