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[–] Drusas@kbin.social 61 points 11 months ago (5 children)

This is backwards. The vast majority of people, certainly here on the internet, support the Palestinians. Especially young people, even when you are looking outside of the internet.

Meanwhile, almost everybody seems to have forgotten about the plight of the Ukrainians.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Bitch I'm just tired. What the fuck am I supposed to do?

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Generally speaking, be upset when super shitty things happen to people regardless of nationality.

[–] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 19 points 11 months ago

I'm running out of upset. I'm just kind of getting numb to it all. I hate it.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I've been upset since the moment I saw the people in Yemen starve. They're not in a good position but I can't do shit so worrying about it only hurts me.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Worrying isn't about hurting other people. It's about being emotionally invested in the world around you, a process that requires negative emotions.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

It doesn't have to accomplish anything. Emotions don't have to be productive to be justified. They're a part of life and a part of being human, and you'd do well to accept that.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It does have to accomplish something otherwise I'm worrying for no reason which is self-harm at that point.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It literally doesn't and no one owes you a justification for their own emotions. Mind your business

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] orrk@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

no, you are supposed to see the bad guys as lower than animals, the reason i don't shed as many tears for the Russians is that those on the front have a chance to flee and surrender, and many people do take it

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Or, we could just not see any person as lower than animals, and it'll lead to way less bloodshed than anyone having to flee and surrender would.

[–] orrk@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

surrendering literally leads to less bloodshed, but many Russian soldiers are of the opinion that Russia uber alles

[–] S_204@lemm.ee -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

The people who claim Lemmy users aren't assholes like Reddit users are the ones downvoting this comment.

Eta. When I made this comment the one above was at -5 and that's confusing to me.

[–] LemurEyes@lemmy.world -2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Be upset. Always. It's what good people do!Never allow yourself to be happy because you have peace, for there are others who have no such opportunity for peace. People are always suffering, so why choose to be a discompassionate monster by just being okay with what is going on in your own life, when you could scroll past images of other people's misery and do the virtuous thing of getting upset.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yeah, let's strawman everyone who expects emotional investment from you instead, because the only thing that matters in this world is you and your feelings, and fuck everyone else's.

[–] fosforus@sopuli.xyz 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not sure if you're right: https://www.reuters.com/world/us-public-support-israel-drops-majority-backs-ceasefire-reutersipsos-2023-11-15/ -- and that's almost 2 months old, support for Israel has probably not gone up.

Ukraine is getting way too little support though from everyone, that's true. I think what they need is weapons and additional financial pressure against Russia, not like angry retweets and memes. Those are pretty much the modern equivalent of thoughts and prayers.

[–] rainerloeten@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

True. I think that sending your representative(s) a letter/email about an issue can increase pressure or at leat awareness of it. Much more than social media posts at least. What do you think? 🤔

I do that sometimes and don't know if it's for nothing. Might depend on the country?

[–] greenskye@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

I don't think support of the Palestinians was that clear even a few weeks ago. At least in relation to current events. Opinions were in a lot of flux

[–] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 11 points 11 months ago

Eh not sure about that

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk -3 points 11 months ago

I think they're talking about the tankies, who love Russia and think Ukraine had it coming.