this post was submitted on 22 Jul 2023
2981 points (99.6% liked)
Showerthoughts
29793 readers
654 users here now
A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. A showerthought should offer a unique perspective on an ordinary part of life.
Rules
- All posts must be showerthoughts
- The entire showerthought must be in the title
- Avoid politics
- 3.1) NEW RULE as of 5 Nov 2024, trying it out
- 3.2) Political posts often end up being circle jerks (not offering unique perspective) or enflaming (too much work for mods).
- 3.3) Try c/politicaldiscussion, volunteer as a mod here, or start your own community.
- Posts must be original/unique
- Adhere to Lemmy's Code of Conduct
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Or, they’re getting mad at you because they hate power and money, and you’re claiming they idolize it.
Atheism is materialism is capitalism. They don't just idolize money, it's the basic unit of their reality.
I honestly have no idea what this means and I’m super confused by this comment.
I was pretty religious for decades (Christianity) and things like money and power were all up in there. In theory, it wasn’t supposed to be, but it absolutely was.
Christianity is a religion which serves power, not God. Materialism and Atheism are the ignorant beliefs that nothing exists that cannot be measured or known, cooked up by beings which have a such a narrow field of perspective that they can't perceive a tenth of their surroundings, even with scientific instruments.
Well, all I can really do is speak for my experience.
I’m a big fan of the New Testament’s teachings on loving your fellow humans, not judging others, forgiving others, and treating people the way you’d like to be treated. That said, there were a lot of people in my churches / fellowships that claimed to care about that stuff, but got so caught up in the other dogma that they ended loosing site of JC’s main teachings.
My motivations for non-belief are not driven by idolizing money or material things. I’m kind of a hippy and I distain people that overvalue that stuff. I simply of the belief that I don’t need to understand the afterlife in order to be a kind an empathetic human being. Life is hard, and since most of us have experienced hardship, we know what it’s like when other’s are suffering hardship. So we should try our best to love each other and help each other out.
I take offense to people judging me as a materialistic capitalist without taking the time to get to know me. I’m not happy with people that hoard wealth, I hate materialism, and I’ve spend the last decade volunteering my Saturday and Sunday working in recovery clinics to help my fellow man… because life is hard, and sometimes you need someone to help you out without casting judgment.
All I can say is you're the one that assigned judgment and then took offense to that judgment. I don't blame you for your programming, I know it's a product of your culture. You still believe that you live in a transactional universe, and the sad part is there's nothing but bankruptcy at the end.
Re judgement: I wasn’t the one saying atheists are ignorant, materialistic, capitalistic people whose reality revolves around money.
And yeah, I take offense to someone calling me those things when they don’t know me from Adam. Matthew 7 - judge not buddy.
I try to live a life that prioritizes kindness, love, service, and charity to my fellow humans. I’m totally fine if you want to call BS on that. Feel free to say I’m a selfish money grubbing dolt, but I ask that you at least get to know me first before you start casting aspersions.
You're the one that attached judgments to the words ignorant, materialistic, and capitalistic.
lol. Ok.
I hope you have a great day. Wishing you happiness and health.
Ignorance means spiritual ignorance. There's no fault or judgement. It's the default state of man.
Materialistic mean the belief that all phenomena in the universe can be explained by material and mechanical means.
Capitalistic means that capital or earthly power is important and useful to wield.
You evidently only know the common uses of these words, and have attached negative personal values to all of them.
👍