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[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Keep in mind that North Korea, or the DPRK, can't really trade except for with countries like China and the Russian Federation (and even then illegally while those two countries look the other way).

It's literally in an embargo that's been going on for decades now.

[–] aldalire@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 9 months ago (5 children)

That too. Although, I wonder what the terms of the embargos are, and what north korea has to do on their side to appease the west and allow trade.

Oh why is this country so corrupt and backwards! Let’s put more sanctions in to restrict its trade and starve its citizens.

Western logic 😵‍💫

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago (1 children)

what north korea has to do on their side to appease the west and allow trade

Cuba tried to ask for such terms and was told no terms would be offered.

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 46 points 9 months ago

Per Blowback, Che offered to the US, in exchange for lifting the blockade:

  • No exporting Revolution

  • No military alliance with the USSR

  • Cuba wouldn’t / couldn’t directly pay back the US for appropriated property, but were willing to reimburse the US over time through terms of trade

Really, the only non-negotiable was that Cuba was a communist country, and would have communist governance and a communist economy. JFK thought it was a sign of weakness on Cuba’s part and turned them down.

[–] Pluto@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

Yeah, there are virtually no terms (from what I've read), as the country's leadership is seen as undemocratic and dictatorial and, therefore, the United States and its allies dictate the terms (and DPRK has to follow them) while North Korea doesn't get a say. It is called a rogue state partly for that reason (as opposed to a country like Saudi Arabia, which has often been a staunch partner of the United States).

But we know that it has a functioning democracy at various levels; certainly no worse than most Western democracies.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

That too. Although, I wonder what the terms of the embargos are, and what north korea has to do on their side to appease the west and allow trade.

Most of the recent-ish embargoes (last few decades) are most directly the US and friends punishing the DPRK's development of nuclear weaponry. This is plainly because the nuclear arms are one of the DPRK's strongest deterrents to US invasion, since it's not as though the DPRK wants to use those weapons or intends to except under the circumstances of being invaded by foreign powers.

[–] GaryLeChat@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 9 months ago

If you're interested in what the UN sanctions resulting from their nuclear program are, they're here and they are very very broad.