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Politicians constantly talk about stopping the illegal immigrants that are coming from Mexico, but putting a wall has never and will never be a solution since the reason why so many displaced keep coming across the border is mostly to escape the crime, corruption, inequality, and violence of they have to live in their home countries. The worst part is that most of these terrible things is that happen in third world countries are rooted in constant subversion by developed countries, primarily the US. I feel like since we caused this (even if in part) we should help stop it now, even if we didn't publicly admit guilt to save face.

So, how do we do it? Do we straight up invade Mexico and go on a full out war against the cartels like we did against Osama Bin Laden?

If not, why not? And, is there anything that can be done?

I would like to keep things civil. Please, let's keep this respectful as I know this is a tough issue and there is anger on both sides of this issue.

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[–] djsoren19@yiffit.net 44 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Here's the thing - most people aren't actually interested in trying hard drugs. The people who are, will probably obtain them irregardless of legality. Given that, what is the harm in mass legalization? It keeps money out of the cartels and back into the community via taxation; it ensures the drug is pure and safe to consume with no additives; and for the individuals who afterward decide it is not for them, they can get the help that they need without worrying.

[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Exactly this. When Portugal decriminalized drugs, they saw a decrease in usage-related deaths, drug crimes, and an increase in rehabilitation. Overall, there has been a decline in drug use as a result.

[–] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

But you have to put the money into the treatment. Oregon isn’t quite doing that yet, and the lag between legalizing the drugs and actually increasing services has been pretty bad for everyone involved.

Hopefully we get it straightened out in the next year or two.

[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dont you love how every country in the world just acts like this didnt happen (and still is very successfully)?

[–] weeeeum@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

It's not quite as easy as it sounds, the way part is legalizing, the hard part is intensive treatment required for success. Some US tried harm reduction and it majorly backfired drugs were now cheaper and easier to get.

What was successful is the method of treatment, but that's expensive and countries simply don't want to do that. Plus it would catch a ton of flak from Republicans so it's screwed.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Predictable dosing will save lives from overdoses.

[–] Cheers@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

I'd imagine some sort of NIST to maintain a standard would make it more expensive, which would result in people looking for their local dealers again.