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[–] Rascabin@lemmy.ml 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Can't they just make dumb EVs for now? I mean we don't have to go all out Starks Enterprises with every EV to attract customers. I still need buttons and things i can feel while driving.

[–] Steve@communick.news 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Not related to EVs at all. Every new, feature rich car, is like this.
Camera systems for semi-autonomous driving, blind spot warnings, and parking assist. Always on cellular connections for maps, navigation, and roadside assistance. The tech has been in most cars for a decade or more. It's the last 5ish years the manufactures realized they could collect all the data and have another revenue stream.

[–] seang96@spgrn.com 13 points 10 months ago

They must be loving it, charging customers for 5 subscriptions for 1 car, then sending all that users data from using those subscriptions to advertisers for more profit.

[–] Pepsi@kbin.social -1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ok.

does this issue not affect EVs or something?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

All cars. Mostly newer models.

[–] Pepsi@kbin.social 0 points 10 months ago

oh okay, so EVs are impacted too?

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Not to mention how much cheaper an EV could be if it had manual windows, less software, less microphones, less screens and just overall focused on being a car before being a smart device, status symbol, or entertainment system.

[–] powerofm@lemmy.ca 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The problem is tech is cheap, especially software. Even moreso when the data you gain is so valuable.

[–] lysol@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's like you'll have to go convert like a 2005 ICE car to electric to get a "nice car without tech shit I never asked for".

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Whoever makes a "remove the bullshit you don't want" service for new cars is going to make a lot of money.