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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 125 points 10 months ago (19 children)

People are desperate, angry, and feel like they have nothing to lose. Because regardless of who is in office, they never help. And people who feel.like they have nothing to lose, are going to act like they have nothing to lose.

Soooooooo many of our issues could be solved with the bare minimum social systems in every other developed country

Billy Bob ain't going to try and overthrow the government if he feels the government is looking out for him, even if he's still a racist piece of shit, he's now got something to lose if he fucks around.

Just like with other terrorists, the best way to fight them is figure out why people are joining their organization and then fix whatever issue makes people do it. It's a lot easier to prevent an extremist than to fix one after

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 52 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not that simple. Racist folks in America don't care they are poor as long as minorities are even poorer. That's a huge part of Republican politics, that's why they vote for Trump. Trump doesn't promise them they will have better lives. It's all racist dog whistles promising them they will still be on top, they will be the 'better' race. That's why they oppose all sensible policies, because they will try to fix inequality and inequality is what they want.

And I don't think there's a simple fix for this. Many countries have this issue (UK, France) and the more progressive policies you try to push there the stronger the push back is. In the end it usually goes farther right until something terrible happens...

[–] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 10 months ago

This needs to be repeated. It sounds ludicrous that someone could be so petty and cruel, but it's true. Conservative politics is the ideology of natural hierarchies. It doesn't matter how bad white folks have it, as long as those damn black folks can't use the same drinking fountain as them!

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It’s not that simple. Racist folks in America don’t care they are poor as long as minorities are even poorer

True, but they wouldn't push to keep other races down just so they're below them so they can feel better about their own problems. Or at least wouldn't be pushing so far down.

They wouldn't have as many problems to blame on other races either.

It's not like anything besides 100% solving racism is a waste of time. And keep in mind, this is just a positive side effect to actually helping everyone...

It's like turning down a free steak because the potatoes isn't big enough....

[–] pixelmeow@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

They’re turning down the free steak because the [insert ethnicity/whatever difference here] person might get one too.

[–] menthol@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago

And mainly because currently they don't really need the free steak, or don't think they do. Government funded health care? Nah, I can afford insurance. Then an accident happens and they go broke. Then they want the free steak.

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