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A reminder to all you far left and far right nutjobs that think Joe Biden has done nothing significant in office
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this post was submitted on 18 Jan 2024
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Is he the Democrat candidate with the best chance of beating Trump, is the important question.
Regarding the importance of name recognition and the low-information status of most of the electorate, that is a 'sadly, yes' moment.
He's one of the very few people on the national stage and in such a possible position that are as unpopular as Trump or even worse, so… probably no(?)
Regarding how many of the Democratic base have said "We'd like somebody else"... that is actually quite dubious a statement. Polls have consistently ranged between 66-85% saying they want somebody other than Biden. And his popularity is only shrinking. at best, any election with biden and trump as the two candidates are going to be nail biters, with DNC peeps having to work two, three times as hard to get the vote out than virtually any other candidate they could pick.
And yet when specifics come up, there is no consensus candidate other than Biden.
It's how he won the last primary. He was the second-choice of a larger and more divided pool of other candidates - we've always wanted someone other than Biden. The issue is that we can't agree on who that would be.
I really think you're underestimating the advantages of name recognition and incumbency.
if Biden were to support and go to bat for any other candidate his name recognition and incumbency could be made to work for them.
That he doesn't do that... is a matter of his own ego.
Incumbency and name recognition don't work like that, as a great many outgoing politicians who endorse and campaign for their picked protégé find out.
Influenced by his ego, sure, but not simply a matter of ego. I would have loved for Biden to step down as a one-term president, but I also understand that there is a matter of political calculation in this.
If they can’t solve the problem in the last seven years, what makes you think they’ll solve it in the next five?
This is a bed of the DNC’s own making and just further evidence that they’re too out of touch to actually effectively govern.
How is that relevant to the argument we were having? We were discussing Biden's electability and whether incumbency and name recognition are linked to his running for president, not whether the DNC can govern, or what problem(?) wasn't solved in the past 7 years.
the problem of not having groomed new talent.
They haven't had new talent in more than 7 years. that's why they went with the "compromise" candidate, while promising to groom that talent so that it won't happen again.
yet another of Biden's broken campaign promises. like "restricting superpacks" and bringing "transparency if campaign financing"... because he really needs those AIPAC donations, right? and speaking of AIPAC donations, what about that promise to end the wars in the middle east? Dropping bombs on Houthi's because you gotta back up the genocidial maniac (see superpac funding).
Again, that's not what we were discussing.
Dropping bombs on Houthis because they're attacking civilian ships in one of the most used commercial routes in the world.
Because his best friend is going all genocidal. Biden is actively escalating tensions with a slapped on veneer of legitimacy
And do you think if the US wasn't in support of Israel, the Houthis would just... what, stop?
I think everyone who has the power to stop the madness wants this war.
Hamas and the Houthis included. Though they’re bottom feeders being used by Iran and maybe Russia in a proxy war. Israel and US are included in that. Unless you think Israelis would be so openly brazen if the US wasn’t simping so hard?
I honestly think the Israelis would be just as brazen. Which is why it's all the more important that we withdraw aid. There's no positive influence we can wield in this, no heroic moment where the US saves the day. We need to just... stop. Rejoin the rest of the international community and try to minimize the damage of the genocide as a collective.