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[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m in camp Janeway did nothing wrong, but some things like the doctor in SNW keeping his daughter in the buffer raise questions about just exactly what is being stored and rematerialized. Maybe there was a way to use transporter magic to solve the trolley problem, but the needs of the many and two crew members were already MIA

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It’s been shown multiple times before that there’s no technological reason you can’t put someone in the buffer and take two out. Thomas and William are proof of this.

The Voyager crew likely had access to the records of the Thomas case, having happened a decade earlier. Though I admit I don’t know if the information would have been classified or withheld for some reason.

Assuming they had the information, they could have likely attempted a duplication, and unmerge one of the two resulting Tuvix’s.

I found myself so pissed off this wasn’t even considered during the episode. It’s like they just forgot duplication was a possibility, even if it wasn’t a super sure fire solution.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That solution would require transporters to have a consistent set of abilities across series, when somehow the way they work changes even within the same series

[–] VindictiveJudge@startrek.website 3 points 11 months ago

Firmware updates fix some bugs and introduce others.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We could have saved Tuvix’ pattern, split him into the family members we all meme over, and then used energy to pop him back

[–] explodicle@local106.com 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Wait so then why don't they duplicate people all the time? The galaxy could use another Data.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 10 points 11 months ago

Because the star trek transporter is pretty much the definition of deus ex machina, with a particularly lazy deus that only works every few episodes

[–] michaelgemar@mstdn.ca 9 points 11 months ago

@explodicle @startrek I think it’s best not to ponder the capabilities of the transporter too closely, otherwise it kinda breaks the world.

[–] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if that falls under eugenics, too close to cloning.

[–] explodicle@local106.com 2 points 11 months ago

They had a pretty broad definition of "eugenics" anyways. Bashir's parents did nothing wrong.