I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn't much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl. They both contain a lot of the same bacteria, you wouldn't be much better off licking an old used plate that has been sitting in a moist environment for a few days before you put the dishwasher on than you would be from licking a toilet brush. Well made dishwashers are designed to vigorously wash and, with the right settings and detergent, sanitize everything inside them so that they are safe to eat off of. Heck the machines they use to sanitize surgical equipment are essentially fancy dishwashers. But emotionally I couldn't do it. Even if I used the best dishwasher known to man and rewashed everything multiple times, I just wouldn't be able to get over that mental hurdle.

[–] mako 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (12 children)

I mean logically the kind of shit that grows on your dishes isn't much better for you than the literal shit that a toilet brush would scrub out of your toilet bowl.

First, what the fuck is growing on your dishes that you believe is "logically" equivalent to eating human shit? Second, this isn't a logic problem or a place for opinion. All the work was already done for you, just waiting for you to look it up instead of giving your opinion on bacteria.

Human shit also doesn't only contain bacteria. There's an estimated 100 million - 1 billion virus per gram of wet shit inside of us. Fungi are estimated at up to a million microorganisms per gram of wet shit and there's still around 100 billion bacteria per gram of wet shit. Let's not forget parasites like cryptosporidium which your body purges in shit.

Meanwhile either giving your dishes a cursory rinse or not allowing them to sit covered in food for days on end would minimize bacterial or fungal growth on your dishes.

This is a reminder for everyone: your opinion on facts that you can't be bothered to type in a search box are less than worthless. They're disinformation and in some cases, like telling people that eating shit is no more harmful that licking a plate, can cause harm.

Just say no to opinions on what facts may or may not be. Cite your sources.

[–] where_am_i@sh.itjust.works 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

yay, the brutal science man to the rescue!

[–] mako -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know what "brutal science" is but I do know that the scientific process was used in many peer-reviewed studies to understand what lives in our shit. That holds a lot more weight for me than what an anonymous poster feels might be right in regards to the same subject matter.

Furthermore, the greater concept here is that we as a species have access to actual information by powers of magnitude more then ever before in human history and yet a significant percentage of the population believe that vaccines cause autism because a washed up Playboy bunny repeated what she read from a discredited "doctor" and it caught on like wildfire.

People in general too often believe what they hear or read without legitimate evidence. Disinformation exists at best because people unconsciously believe their opinions are just as valid as peer-reviewed research, and at worst to weaponize information for personal gain. Whatever the intent it's a plague on humanity and I won't apologize for calling it out when seen. If that's too "brutal" for you I hope you can get to a place where reading cited information in response to opinion doesn't disrupt your sensitivities.

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I think brutal science is implying that while you're likely right, you're also being strangely aggressive and pretty uncharitable to the people you're replying to. See your three paragraph response to a one liner as an example.

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