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Kentucky is currently making "unlawful camping" punishable by death now at the hands of the land owners so double check where the bog is
Is there literally any "unowned land" left on the planet?
Depends on what you mean exactly. In many countries including the USA there is land that's not owned by any private person, but the state. Not claimed by any entity is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_nullius
Same thing, effectively. Funny enough that land was grabbed back in the 1600's based on very flimsy rhetoric about how just claiming land for yourself was a god given right for all human beings and that it would solve all problems by free market principles (which were not yet formalized but would soon be, specifically based on said rhetoric).
We were fucked by hobby philosophers hundreds of years ago. Don't come tell me a philosophy degree is worthless.
They were gonna do that anyways. The philosophers were just hired as PR men.
Those are called sophists. Today we'd call them lawyers. Or Republicans.
As in the landowner can just shoot them right there?
Yes, but it's a bill that has been introduced. It hasn't even been voted on yet.
Yeah, I didn't do a great job phrasing it. "Currently" is doing a lot of lifting there.
...presuming you've asked them to leave and they've responded by threatening force or using force against you, and assuming that bill actually passes, yes.
The whole concept of trespassing on " private property" is bullshit anyway.
Sounds cool in some utopian parallel universe, but as long as there are people willing to take advantage of others it's not going to work in the real world. Imagine putting a lot of work in your garden and some random crazy person puts up a camping tent in it because they don't believe in private property? Just get out in 5 minutes or I'll call the cops.
Presumably they don't believe anyone should be allowed to own any property.
Private property was always complete bullshit, it's based on nothing but bad philosophy.
It's always been like that to one degree or another.
Not quite. Based on what that bill actually says, it's not legal to shoot you for "unlawful camping" unless they ask you to leave and you respond by threatening violence against them or actually engaging in violence against them.
It's kinda difficult to defend your case after you've been shot dead without any witnesses nearby.