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[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

INAV for the simple reason that I'm not strong enough to have that level of self discipline, and autistically stuck in my food habits, but at some point I realized that vegans are essentially broadly speaking correct. Anyone who cares enough about defending their carnism has clearly had a nerve touched by this meme. Like, why not just ignore it and go on with your life if you're not going to change your habits anyway? You're certainly not going to convince a vegan to stop being vegan (and why would you want to lmao?). So just. Move on? I know we have a posting culture but on this one you really don't need to.

I have some squabbles with certain vegan arguments, mostly in the form of "you're correct but you're argument for it is bad" rather then "i think your argument is literally wrong", but I'm not going to bother fighting for something I dont even actually defend. My biggest thing is that I dont think consumption habits matter that much so I dont know why people fight for it so hard when there are better ways to fight the meat industry than simple consumer choices. But like, the meme still isnt technically wrong.

[–] Catradora_Stalinism@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have some squabbles with certain vegan arguments, mostly in the form of "you're correct but you're argument for it is bad" rather then "i think your argument is literally wrong"

literally my main criticism, the arguments sometimes are out of touch and dogmatic. But the vast majority have well thought out and consistent arguments, i think. I have rethought my stance on the subject many times due to this place, and i thank hexbear for that.

stop comparing animal husbandry to the atlantic slave trade though, thats just racist. I don't have another example off the top of my head but please do not use the slave trade one.

[–] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The reason you don't have any other examples that would be acceptable to you is because nothing would be. You want vegans to sit down and shut up.

Spoon is to soup as front-end loader is to aggregate. The relationship is the same; thing A picks up thing B. Nothing else about them is remotely similar however. The scale, what is picked up, how the device is used, they're different in almost every way, however you can understand that what they do is the same. Am I comparing soup to aggregate? No of course I'm not.

You have to be operating in very bad faith to suggest that many of our most important members here on our communist website are implying "actually slavery wasn't that bad after all."

Edit: Since post is now locked

Directly equating minority oppression with animal abuse

Minorities who are being dehumanized and treated like animals.
Is that because they're less than human fundamentally, or because they're oppressed? (It's the latter in case someone tries to do some logical backflips to interpret this as me saying minorities are less than human)