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idk this could be like a potentially positive stepping stone from the self-centered aggrievement and culture war obsession of internet men's rights activism to a politics of solidarity, but knowing Reddit, it'll descend further and further into stupidpol-style griping about SJWs with a tacked-on "this is the reason we can't have healthcare!!"
There's already a place for that, it's r/MensLib, and it's kinda silly sometimes but it's well meaning and positive. It's so positive that you feel bad saying anything even about the kinda dumb stuff over there. This is just weird lol
Yeah I just took a peek at this subreddit and it's very MRA-lite, while still rejecting MRAs. They're recognizing problems of patriarchy, but then complaining that feminists ignore them. I think they take criticism of patriarchy personally and find it confusing that people who aren't men can still uphold and benefit from it.
Honestly the entire subreddit seems to be a product of men harmed by the "men are trash" dialogue that /r/MensLib has been addressing recently. /r/MensLib is overall a good subreddit with occasional outright leftist takes, whereas this one is overtly critical of feminism for not taking Men's issues seriously.
Tbh it does remind me a of a phase I went through where I called myself an "egalitarian" as a way to ally with feminists. It wasn't in bad faith, I just felt genuinely that I didn't belong in feminist spaces for reasons this subreddit seems to be complaining about. So this could be a decent subreddit for pipelining people?
Edit: here's a thread where they discuss MRA/TRP. Not surprisingly, lots of takes that really miss the mark.
Edit2: here's a thread on the recent discourse in the MensLib subreddit regarding "all men are trash". The comments don't seem too optimistic; the top one is literally complaining that trans men are having their voices elevated when someone like them would've been ignored 🤦♂️. There's still some good comments in there too, so it's really a mixed bag of a subreddit.