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This is a chance for any users, admins, or developers to ask anything they'd like to myself, @nutomic@lemmy.ml , SleeplessOne , or @phiresky@lemmy.world about Lemmy, its future, and wider issues about the social media landscape today.

NLNet Funding

First of all some good news: We are currently applying for new funding from NLnet and have reached the second round. If it gets approved then @phiresky@lemmy.world and SleeplessOne will work on the paid milestones, while @dessalines and @nutomic will keep being funded by direct user donations. This will increase the number of paid Lemmy developers to four and allow for faster development.

You can see a preliminary draft for the milestones. This can give you a general idea what the development priorities will be over the next year or so. However the exact details will almost certainly change until the application process is finalized.

Development Update

@ismailkarsli added a community statistic for number of local subscribers.

@jmcharter added a view for denied Registration Applications.

@dullbananas made various improvements to database code, like batching insertions for better performance, SQL comments and support for backwards pagination.

@SleeplessOne1917 made a change that besides admins also allows community moderators to see who voted on posts. Additionally he made improvements to the 2FA modal and made it more obvious when a community is locked.

@nutomic completed the implementation of local only communities, which don't federate and can only be seen by authenticated users. Additionally he finished the image proxy feature, which user IPs being exposed to external servers via embedded images. Admin purges of content are now federated. He also made a change which reduces the problem of instances being marked as dead.

@dessalines has been adding moderation abilities to Jerboa, including bans, locks, removes, featured posts, and vote viewing.

In other news there will soon be a security audit of the Lemmy federation code, thanks to Radically Open Security and NLnet.

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@dessalines and @nutomic are working full-time on Lemmy to integrate community contributions, fix bugs, optimize performance and much more. This work is funded exclusively through donations.

If you like using Lemmy, and want to make sure that we will always be available to work full time building it, consider donating to support its development. Recurring donations are ideal because they allow for long-term planning. But also one-time donations of any amount help us.

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[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 7 points 10 months ago (6 children)

What is your take on right wing subs like !conservative@lemm.ee ?

Should they get the boot? Good for growth? What do you think?

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 19 points 10 months ago

Lemmy is licensed under AGPL which states that everyone can use it, there are no restrictions based on politics. Besides, "right wing" is not the same as "evil", the real world is much more complicated than that. If you ask me, the whole right-left classification is way too simplistic and doesnt make sense anymore (if it ever did).

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm not a Lemmy dev but I'm interested in this question so I'm commenting so I remember to check up on this one.

I subscribe to that sub because I feel like it's important to engage with people that I don't agree with. Even though the two main contributors to that sub are peculiar in their views, I haven't seen them break any rules of lemm.ee or post outright hate to any group but democrats.

I know sh.it.justworks had their own drama with a the_donald popup community which led to calls for defederation before the community was banned but if people are posting within the rules and properly moderate their own; we ought to let them post their politics even if we don't agree.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

of course sh.itholefor.nazis had a T_d community. I'm not even fucking surprised. This is what happens when you go soft on nazism.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I would hope we aren't going to start kicking people out because of there political views.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

Perhaps you are not aware that some instances already do, and that some—for example hexbear & lemmygrad—have done so since their inception.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

Conservativism isn't a political view, it's a crime against humanity. They have exactly one ""legitimate"" claim (lower taxes) and the rest is shit like "lets make child marriage legal", "lets murder people for crossing the border", "lets dogwhistle neofascist hatred" and "lets roll back every human right known to man" and that's before you get into the MAGA shit which is every form of outright nazism stuffed into a trenchcoat.

Instances with conservative /c are all full of notoriously toxic and anticommunist users who go around making the federation way shittier.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is so ridiculous I dont even know where to start.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You've probably better things to do than to go into this, but maybe someone else here can showcase the flaws in my reasoning. All I have to go off of is my own personal experiences and what I see is a direct translation of right-acceptance converting directly into right-wing toxicity.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just to be clear, being conservative is very much a political view. No one is making you agree with there views and no one is making you spend time on conservative communities.

Additionally you are complaining about them being anti communist but you are very anti conservative. Maybe we should just keep those two ideas in there respective communities. I certainly don't care for people posting about communism or conservative ideas on random posts.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Well that's just the thing, they don't keep to themselves. I've no problem with people having different views to my own. That changes when they start harassing anyone who expresses views distasteful to them. Maybe that's justifiable in cases where the "other side" are actual nazis, but it's a lot harder to make that same justification when it's the other way around. What I care most about is freedom of speech which doesn't just turn into "oops all nazism" because you can get that nearly everywhere these days and i'm already starting to see traces of that taking root here too, at least on some instances.

[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

So to summarize, you don't think women, minorities, and the poor should be able to arm themselves? Got it, thanks.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Kaboom@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Communism is when you hurt women, minorities, and the poor.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

actually it's when vuvuzela 9 gorillian dead & no iphone

[–] hendrik@lemmy.ml 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I think the instance admins should handle that. Lemmy itself should be a open and agnostic platform. Admins should use defederation and block specific communities.

(My oppinion, I'm not associated with Lemmy development.)

[–] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's wrong with a "right-wing" community? I'm not right wing but I'm definitely not afraid of them. Anything can be solved with education. Why would you censor based on what side of the political spectrum you're on?

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Because it signals to actual neo-nazis that it's safe to set up here, and of course they take their pedophilia and toxicity with them. Remember all those CSAM attacks that were happening? They were all coming from those instances with a reputation for being soft on the right.

They treat passive tolerance as active acceptance, and then throw disastrous temper tantrums when they find out that isn't actually the case.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Remember all those CSAM attacks that were happening? They were all coming from those instances with a reputation for being soft on the right.

Is this your opinion or do you have actual evidence for this?

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I've done a little investigation in the matter but as the admin for lemmy you should have a way better information on the subject.

[–] nutomic@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So you are making factual statements with zero facts to support them. Got it.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago
[–] soviettaters@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Why should there not be right wing subs? Would we not just be becoming like Reddit by banning them?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Whether there should be right wing comms is up to an instance’s admins, and whether other instances should federate with it is up to the admins of other instances.

As for freeze-peach absolutism, consider the paradox of tolerance.

The USian obsession with free speech comes from the over-application of a first amendment right. That freedom is in fact a restriction on the State to abridge speech, and not a restriction on Lemmy mods or admins.

[–] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

important context: Lemm ee has a conservative c/ run by a pedophile who the admin of that instance protects.