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People keep talking about "Federalizing the National Guard" and now you've got other States pledging their NG to Texas in defiance of the Supreme Court (see image).

So is this what CW2 looks like?

P.S. I'm a Brit

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What is curious to me is these are state departments disagreeing, though the previous civil war was fought between federal and state governments with raised armies.

This time I was expecting the police vs. militants. Uncontrolled civil unrest. Portland and Minneapolis but spread across the nation, cranked to eleven.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

We thought we were getting a proper class war and instead we get fascist versus not fascists but they still hate you

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Portland and Minneapolis? So like, a protest/campout in one or two square blocks while everyone else goes about their normal business?

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 14 points 10 months ago

And the same footage of that one or two blocks being ran for over 6 months on loop

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

In Minneapolis at least one police station was burned down, as well as some commercial buildings. But what is interesting to me is the degree of lethality law enforcement tends to resort to during even peaceful protests.

What I thought was interesting in Portland were the DHS Stormtroopers / LGMs abducting protestors without identifying themselves or their purpose, which figured into to escalation of the protests around the ICE building.

So yes, I'm expecting either white power militant groups or law enforcement, masked up and without identifying marks to conduct raids on minority neighborhoods and community buildings associated with left-aligned organizations like BLM.

That or law enforcement accelerates its usual overpolicing of non-white neighborhoods and covers larger regions until the people can't stand it anymore and start organizing resistance efforts. In Nazi-occupied Paris, it was the brutality of the German occupation that compelled Parisians to fight back. La Résistance evolved from independent mischief-makers to a formidable fighting force across three years.

But you're right, if it's just protests and OWS style campouts, and the police don't misbehave too much, it's not going to be much of a civil war. But so far, we can count on the police getting their murder on when they feel the civil unrest doesn't respect their authority enough. And unlike Ferguson (or the Civil Rights movement in the 1960s) smartphones with cameras are ubiquitous, so they can't deny when they pull a hit like Tamir Rice.