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Framework vs Macbook laptop? (midwest.social)

submitted 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) by clark@midwest.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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I apologise if this is the wrong community to post this in, I wasn’t sure which one was ideal.

I’m suffering a difficult decision of choosing between a Framework laptop or a Macbook Air (M1, 2020). I really like the ethical principles of Framework, i.e. you actually own it and can repair it any time, leading to an increased longevity. At the same time, I have heard people claim Macbook is superior in almost all aspects (especially battery life).

I know both Apple and Microsoft are greedy CorpGiants, but seeing as I have an iPhone, I figure it would be easier using a Mac? But then again, the prices really are not worth it, especially considering it costs a lot to repair them. I have 0 experience with Linux, and this computer will be used at school, so I suppose it stands between macOS and Windows.

I guess I just want some advice? Or some guidance and comparisons. Is 8GB enough for a Framework laptop? The 16GB version costs nearly as much as the Mac I’m looking at, hence my hesitance. If anybody has some experience using Framework and / or Macbook, I would love to hear about it. What are some pros and cons? Which people are better off with FW and Mac respectively?

Thank you!

*Edit, forgot to mention: I need a Swedish keyboard on the computer, and Framework apparently only offers English. This is the largest obstacle preventing me from leaning towards FW.

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[–] clark@midwest.social 7 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I will be studying cyber security where we will do some script programming (but no heavy programming at all), otherwise I use it to stream movies online and watch Youtube. That’s pretty much what I do with my current school-prescribed computer.

[–] hackeryarn@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I’ve worked on dev tooling in a fairly large company. Especially for cyber security, do not get a Mac. A lot of the tools are just different enough on a Mac that they will make your life much harder.

[–] aesc@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 9 months ago

Oh, you want to study cybersecurity? Yeah forget what I said before, get a Framework, and if you don’t put Linux on it at least put WSL on it. Learn all you can.

[–] WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago

cybersecurity really poibts to framework + linux

[–] scytale@lemm.ee 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Just a note that virtualization is not available on Apple silicon (M1+) yet, so if you plan on running VMs like Kali, it won’t be possible.

[–] nachtigall@feddit.de 4 points 9 months ago

What do you mean? Both ARM hypervisor and x86 virtualisation using UTM work great.

[–] aesc@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 9 months ago

Sure it will, just get Kali for ARM. https://www.kali.org/docs/arm/

[–] skozzii@lemmy.ca 0 points 9 months ago

Get a refurb thinkpad(x1 carbon gen7 ish maybe) and run Linux if your in to cybersecurity.