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Framework vs Macbook laptop? (midwest.social)

submitted 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) by clark@midwest.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

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I apologise if this is the wrong community to post this in, I wasn’t sure which one was ideal.

I’m suffering a difficult decision of choosing between a Framework laptop or a Macbook Air (M1, 2020). I really like the ethical principles of Framework, i.e. you actually own it and can repair it any time, leading to an increased longevity. At the same time, I have heard people claim Macbook is superior in almost all aspects (especially battery life).

I know both Apple and Microsoft are greedy CorpGiants, but seeing as I have an iPhone, I figure it would be easier using a Mac? But then again, the prices really are not worth it, especially considering it costs a lot to repair them. I have 0 experience with Linux, and this computer will be used at school, so I suppose it stands between macOS and Windows.

I guess I just want some advice? Or some guidance and comparisons. Is 8GB enough for a Framework laptop? The 16GB version costs nearly as much as the Mac I’m looking at, hence my hesitance. If anybody has some experience using Framework and / or Macbook, I would love to hear about it. What are some pros and cons? Which people are better off with FW and Mac respectively?

Thank you!

*Edit, forgot to mention: I need a Swedish keyboard on the computer, and Framework apparently only offers English. This is the largest obstacle preventing me from leaning towards FW.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

But the repair concerns are legit

Speaking as someone who has disassembled multiple Macbook Airs from multiple generations: Fuck working on Macbook Airs, and Macs in general.

I personally will never buy an Apple product at any price for any purpose, for a multitude of reasons. My preferences aside, if you ever want to work on your own machine Apple is objectively the wrong answer. OP is really looking at two machines that are on complete opposite ends of the spectrum, here.

[–] v_krishna@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Do people really do home repair or upgraded on laptops in 2024 though? Desktops sure, but I haven't found laptops to be particularly amenable to home upgrade since the early 2000s.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Never mind upgrading, if you need to repair your Macbook -- replace a busted screen, swap out one of their famously shitty keyboards or trackpads, etc. -- you're in for a rough time.

[–] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Frameworks yes, but that's pretty much the only ones you can nowadays. I do little things like replace the screen or barrel jacks on my family's laptops, but that's about all you can do.