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~~Y’know, Toriel was right that Asgore was cowardly but he wasn’t necessarily wrong. It was emphasized multiple times that a single human soul could theoretically rival the power of every single monster in existence, and Asgore the people Asgore killed were children. Do you think he would have survived a single second outside the barrier, just trying to pick off randos?~~ (Ignore those, lore brain fart)

And yeah, the monsters are definitely a lot more morally… sus, than the IRA or any real life resistance movement, but I think that’s because part of the point is to show how it’s not justifiable to just start killing oppressed people because they respond to their oppression badly. It’s a hyperbole, and shows how even in a situation where you grant reactionaries all the conspiracies and horrific fake accusations they make against freedom movements, they’re still wrong

https://youtu.be/XjGIimOuGnc?si=vHyvb8KkHZLtcbfo

But, let’s just make an assumption that Asgore was entirely in the wrong (which to be fair, he probably was, I forgot that he would have had an extra soul in him by this point, so he could easily take multiple humans in combat given how creatures like that are described and depicted). This is mostly handled in the narrative. As previously mentioned, Toriel literally divorced him and fucked off to the other side of the Underground to get away from him, and treats him with distaste for the entirety of the game. And, while Asgore is wrong, the interpretation still works, because it’s still a horrific act of oppression for a timebender with nearly unlimited power to kill people in cold blood.

I will concede the comparison to the IRA is very offensive to the IRA, and the IRA (and practically any real life freedom movement) is basically morally flawless in comparison to Asgore and Monsterkind’s shittery, but I’m not the one making the comparison- The person in the video is. And I think it works as a metaphor when you take it as hyperbole for the sake of making a point. The point being, the fact that many of the monsters are not only fucked up but basically evil doesn’t justify continuing the oppression, and it’s still fundamentally the responsibility of those with immense privilege to use it correctly, even when those who don’t have it are reacting to it wrong. The fact that you can instead choose to basically act like an impromptu therapist, and that fixes basically everything, highlights this point perfectly. If you commit yourself to actually helping them work through their issues, rather than murder them indiscriminately or abandon their cause because you don’t like their leader, it ends well.