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I consistently hear people on YouTube complain that the subscribe button doesn't do anything for viewers, now that channel notifications are controlled by the bell. But it does do something: it puts the videos from that channel in your subscription feed, which is readily accessible on all versions of YouTube. So why do people act like it doesn't exist? I think it's super convenient, especially if you're subscribed to a ton of channels and don't want your notifications feed flooded with new videos.

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[–] eugenia@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always use the subscription feed, in fact, my custom homepage has a link to specifically that page. However, my husband didn't even notice that there was such an option and only uses the recommended feed (we talked about it recently). I personally can't stand recommendation engines. These have destroyed my art business in social media platforms. I need chronological.

[–] sparky678348@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

These have destroyed my art business in social media platforms.

What exactly do you mean by this?

[–] kingcake@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Not OP, but most social media sites have an algorithm that generally pushes more controversial or profitable content to the top of the feed.

[–] StillWatersPony@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not OP as well, but as someone who relies on chronological and abhors recommended/algorithm feeds: I don't doubt that it's because if a site has a chronological feed then you as an artist or content creator know that when you post something (say, 5 o'clock), it will show up on everyone's subscription/follow feed when they scroll past 5 o'clock on their feed, it 100% appears to them during their scroll. It will always be there, in that spot.

With algorithm feeds, it's literally anyone's guess as to when or if your post will show up in their feeds, since it randomly populates what they see with content from any random time period. And good luck trying to find a post you came across the other day, or in an earlier session on the website.

To say nothing of how a user's / business's page can appear if it's not displayed chronologically. Same issue there, only worse since you'd ideally want to be showing the most recent things you've been displaying or posting as it's most relevant to what you do.

[–] DrQuint@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

On youtube, the time of day you post something is far less important than several other factors. It doesn't really look at a video's age for the scoring and often brings back 6 year old videos. By far the most important is consistency, as YouTube's recommender largely works on a basis of like-You preferences, and if people like-You are seeing something, it tries to give that to others like-You. If they are driven away early on, YouTube just decides to not recommend at all.

An example: Here's oddheader making a consistency mistake.

https://youtube.com/@oddheader

4 days ago he made a video ranking every single Barbie game. That is not an unpopular category of video. But he still gets punished as that video is over an hour long while his usual is 15 minutes long, that video is very focused on a topic while his typical video is just a thematic excuse to talk about random shit, he usually present alone but here he has a guest, and his title to the video breaks format. Which means his subscribers didn't click it, which meant the recommender didn't think it had any virality, which meant it never went forward.

So instantly got punished with a 80% penalty on engagement.