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Words change meaning over time. This is how language works. What it used to mean isn’t what it means now.
Yeah, that's why I outlined how this term went from describing British communists who supported the Soviet's use of tanks during the Hungarian Revolution to generally pro-authoritarian communists to communists who call for violent resistance to capitalism (especially online). There's a difference between a word's meaning shifting over time and someone misusing or misunderstanding a word so badly they've lost its meaning.
Again, the definition of the word changed. It’s how these things work. Now, it seems to pretty much describe trendy socialists that pick a hot button single issue to be upset about- troll the internet with noses about it, and pretend they actually could have point on a map to where said events are happening six months ago.
Yeah, I don't think most people in this community would agree with the definition you just laid out, and as I said, this community is already misusing the word. What you're describing is closer to the, "dirtbag left," than anything else. You're stretching the definition so far past, "pro-authoritarian-left," that it's ridiculous. It would be like if I started calling Biden supporters, "Bernie Bros," and said the definition had shifted to include any supporter of a left-of-center male candidate. It's so incorrect it's made the word meaningless.
I'm what most people would describe as left, and authoritarianism is the antithesis of what I believe in.
Calling every leftist a tankie removes nuance to political discourse and groups people together who don’t believe the same things, whose views are sometimes totally opposed.
It’s worth pushing back on how the meaning of this word is changing. OP is not arguing it should only apply to British communists, only that it should not be used as a cudgel against every leftie.
edit: spelling
Right. So as an example, "Tankie" currently means "anyone not overjoyed at Biden's support for genocide."