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[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 42 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Which are used to calculate stresses for dams, fluid dynamics for planes and ships, capacity and load simulations for power, and to compile and operate servers.

Software engineers are the pinnacle of engineering.

Check out this book on Amazon (or your library) to see just how clever and useful we really are.

https://www.amazon.com/Software-Engineering-Foundation-of-Modern-Society/dp/B07X66DCLM

[–] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago
[–] sag@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

We are useful?? Thanks You Man I hope my parents also understand that Software Engineering is also a real Engineering

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Software engineering doesn't treat failure anywhere near important enough for me to consider it proper engineering. Bugs are expected, excused and waived, which for anything critical just isn't acceptable in my opinion.

Is software still useful? ... Sure.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 9 months ago

Bugs are inevitable. Humans can't write more than a few dozen lines without making a mistake - it's inevitable because we're barely sentient apes, floundering to understand the full scope of the problem space

But through methodology, bugs can be mitigated. You can reduce their number, and fail gracefully. We have countless ways to do it, and we teach how widely

There's a science to it all, and those of us worth our salt know it... It's not our fault that management disregards our warnings and pushes ever tighter deadlines.

We know how to do better, our warnings just fall on deaf ears far more often then not

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Meh. There's a saying in my field: "anyone can build a bridge, only an engineer can make one that barely doesn't fall down".

Humorously reductive as it is, software is what makes that "barely" thinner than human calculation would normally yield. So... Yeah. Not what I'd call a pinnacle.

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Did you look at the book I linked?

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

No cuz, the link doesn't properly load 😂

E: try searching for just the ASIN: B07X66DCLM and note that I'm using the one you provided!

[–] SzethFriendOfNimi@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Ahh. It’s a boutique link that points to Amazon Digital Purchase of Rick Astleys Never Gonna Give You Up.

E.g. my post was a red herring

[–] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah it loaded after searching the ASIN hahaha

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This person really went and promoted Amazon. Thank you for supporting your family business

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

(click the link)