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Overall, 39% of U.S. adults say they are "extremely proud" to be American in the most recent poll.

Meanwhile, only 18% of those aged 18-34 said the same, compared to 40% of those aged 35-54 and 50% of those 55 and over.

18% is still too high. As Obama's pastor said, God damn America! Americans have very little to be proud of at this point.

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[–] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am proud, but by no means "extremely" proud to be American. I think a lot of European countries have a chiller attitude when it comes to national pride. They do have it, but with a few exceptions, they're not too in-your-face about it. And they're much more willing to recognize their shortcomings.

In the US you get these "America is the best country on earth" morons, as well as "all the world's ills are caused by evil US" morons. They're both stupid.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agreed. I think it's also a bit different in Europe versus in the US because in Europe you are surrounded by people from other nationalities.

In Europe, where you're from is just matter-of-fact. It's in your language, food, culture, etc. So you normally don't fly your flags unless you're trying to make some sort of statement, and outside of sporting events, that statement is seldom good so people tend to avoid it.

The US is a bit different in that being "American" is harder to define and has a history littered with controversy about who counts and who doesn't. People have different ideas about what being American means, and so patriotism has been weaponized to support one cause against another.

[–] LexiconDrexicon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

because in Europe you are surrounded by people from other nationalities

Excuse me but what? Europe is hardly a diverse place.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/most-diverse-countries

"By Gören's measure, the world's most culturally diverse country is the African nation of Chad, which counts more than 100 ethnic groups among its 8.6 million residents. Chad is also Africa's fifth-largest country by area, spanning over 495,624 square miles, which has enabled Chad's ethnic groups to live and operate autonomously despite several attempts to unify them. Most of the 100 languages spoken in Chad are Nilo-Saharan and Afro-Asiatic in origin and do not overlap with ethnic group identities. Arabic, Sara, and French are common across the country, especially Arabic, an important commercial language.

African countries often rank highly in studies of cultural diversity thanks to their many tribal groups and languages. In fact, Canada is the only western country among the top 20 most diverse countries."

[–] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

You've got to be kidding. I don't think this is a contest of who has the most languages and/or cultures in the smallest area. It's not a "one up" argument.