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Cory Doctorow wants to wipe away enshittification of tech (www.theregister.com)

submitted 7 months ago by will_a113@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.world

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Doctrow argues that nascent tech unionization (which we're closer to having now than ever before) combined with bipartisan fear (and consequent regulation) either directly or via agencies like the FTC and FCC can help to curb Big Tech's power, and the enshittification that it has wrought.

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[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The employees invest their time and time is money. The customers invest their money and their trust. The general public invests their tax dollars to create the infrastructure needed for the company to even exist in the first place.

And don’t tell me the employees get compensated for their time, because they create more value than they receive, hence, profits.

The shareholders, literally only invest money. They give the least and get the most.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Wait are you talking about caring about the workers? Hm... Idk... Sounds like communism to me 😠

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Communism is not "caring about workers". If you read what Lenin thought of NEP, he agreed that it was in fact better for workers, but ideological impurity of that system was more important, and the reason it was kept for a while was that without some economy there'd simply be no new state after the civil war. While for Trotsky even that wasn't a good reason.

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I was making a joke about right-wingers calling every slightly social, pro-labor, feminist, or anti-racist policy (basically anything that isn't taxes for the rich) "communist".

They even called Biden a communist 🤦

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not funny really.

[–] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 1 points 7 months ago

Lmao take it easy rottingleaf.

[–] le_saucisson_masquay@sh.itjust.works 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The employees invest their time and time is money. The customers invest their money and their trust. The general public invests their tax dollars to create the infrastructure needed for the company to even exist in the first place.

Yes but it is nothing comparable to millions or billions of € invested by shareholder. Sure customer invest their trust and money but they get benefit immediately, aka the product. General public invest their tax for the infrastructure however companies get taxed too for the infrastructure that benefits general public, that's a null equation. Investor are a necessary part of the economy and shall be treated as such, nothing prevent government from taxing more benefits from investment tho.

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

I didn’t say they weren’t important or necessary. I said they were the least important, and I stand by that. Name one single company that doesn’t have employees or customers, or exists outside of a government. I can name several companies without outside investors.