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[-] Stamets@lemmy.world 120 points 4 months ago

It's not the wage. It's an enlistment bonus for shipping out to basic within a short time frame of enlisting. Meant to help fill vacancies in the Army.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 67 points 4 months ago

Nobody wants to join the military because people are tired of going to fight strangers in foreign countries they have no beef with. We're figuring out that our military is actually more of a terrorist organization with veto power in NATO.

Plus you know, people are worried about the impending climate crisis and the future water wars more than the geopolitical dick swinging the military is used to enforce.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 54 points 4 months ago

plus all we ever hear about from vets is how this country refuses to take care of them... the abysmal state of veteran care in this country has broken the line in many traditionally long running military families. like, if big papa breadwinner of the traditional southern family comes back broken and unable to work that family just ends up on the street. that alone breaks that chain of what may have been 10 generations of military men. now think of every less extreme scenario and how common they are and how they affects the minds of those children that may have previously been gung-ho to sign up.

veterans these days have little pride over what they accomplished or failed to accomplish, the war stories are hard to make glorious sounding, they all have some severe medical issue caused by the military that the military refuses to acknowledge and/or help them with, so very many homeless veterans...

I'm not at all pro military, but even I can see how ridiculously fucked it is that a man can sign his life away to fight for a county and for that county to not even have the decency to pick him up out of the fucking dirt after...

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

veterans these days have little pride over what they accomplished or failed to accomplish, the war stories are hard to make glorious sounding, they all have some severe medical issue caused by the military that the military refuses to acknowledge and/or help them with, so very many homeless veterans…

I don't disagree with your conclusion but fyi - korean vietnam and 80s conflicts vets very rarely have gung-ho battle glory stories to sell. they experienced as much trauma as iraq/afghanistan vets, there's not a lot of glory to go around. the familial tradition of service is being broken, but the service is also trying to diversify and get away from being 80%+ legacy/ mil family tradition we had in the 90s.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

i wasn't trying to be exclusive to only the most recent conflicts. this is a thing that's been developing and getting worse for a long time. i never thought anyone had any proud battle stories from those eras either. pretty much since wwii as far as i can tell...

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Sure, was just mislead by:

veterans these days

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

yeah, that's fair 😅 my phrasing could've been better. that was admittedly a bit of a quickdraw of a comment.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 46 points 4 months ago

Meant to help fill vacancies in the Army.

I thought it was to help boost sales of Dodge vehicles

[-] Bdtrngl@lemmy.world 17 points 4 months ago

Same thing.

[-] knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 28 points 4 months ago

Not to mention clothing, housing, food are all taken care of too. Not to mention perks of military base discounts and programs.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 75 points 4 months ago

Plus, you abandon all bodily autonomy and you might be wounded or killed.

[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 40 points 4 months ago

And even if you're not, the chances of PTSD are astronomical! Not to mention the likelihood of having to do something morally reprehensible.

[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

hope you enjoyed music in your youth because the vast majority will come home with degrees of hearing loss, most of which the mil will assert happened away from service.