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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How are you a Star Trek fan and a chud, do you believe the honorable Jean Luc Picard would genocide Palestinians?

[–] Afterthought_C@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Media literacy is dead apparently. Not surprised though. My mom spent two years studying Things Fall Apart with me when I was doing English Literature (and later on To Kill a Mockingbird with my brother). Today she believes the zionist propaganda and believes Palestinians need to be saved from Hamas.

Also I've been aching to make this comment on somewhere so I will make it here:

Pop Culture Politicals after watching TLA: Aang should have killed Ozai. Killing an evil overlord that genocided your people and aims to enslave other nations is not cold-blooded murder, it's self defense.

Pop Culture Politicals when real-life marginalised groups fight their oppressors: Violence is not the answer. Be peaceful like a sterotypical monk.

This is less about media literacy and more about detachment and compartmentalization. Fiction is fiction, it's easier to play and experiment in a fictional space because there are no real consequences. People can easily say "yes I would pull the lever to save the 5 children tied to the railroad track even if it means I have to watch one child be crushed before me due to my action, it's the right thing to do! Just like the protagonist in this story I read." Thing is if you actually stuck them in a freight yard with a bunch of children tied to the tracks they'd probably struggle with the choice a lot more than they did while reading a novella on their sofa.

I think people here really give fiction and media more power than it has, people mostly just consume it for fun. Reading about plucky underdog guerrillas fighting an imperialist occupation is good story telling, it makes for exciting drama. Enjoying that doesn't really translate to having good geopolitical takes, cuz real world drama isn't fun, it's uncomfortable and challenging and can actually affect your life.

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Bajor is probably the closest I think you'll get, and on that his opinion is clear.

And I don't agree with Israel, I acknowledge that hamas's attack has provoked a broader invasion and a state change in their relationship.

There's not always a good guy and a bad guy, and Hamas is no fucking boy scout group.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

For your dumb analogy to make any sense you'd have to pretend Picard supported the Cardassian occupation, like the US which LITERALLY finances the entire Israeli colonial project

If the US had the same policy toward Israel as the Federation had toward Bajor, the Israeli nazi state would've collapsed decades ago

Hamas is no fucking boy scout group.

The Palestinian resistance is currently defending 2 million men, women and children from a depraved army of butchers, rapists, grave robbers and organ thieves

You're goddamn right they're no boy shouts, they're a bush-wacking guerilla army taking nazi scalps

Now go fuck yourself nazi

Jesus Christ.

Picard was on the side of Bajor... I'm not trying to paint him in any other light.

This whole server is fucked, the admins can feel free to ban me for life.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Hamas wasn't there, a different militant group would be in the lead against Israel. Even on Oct. 7th several militant groups attacked Israel, not just Hamas. So they might not be seen as a "good guy" but they are fighting on the morally correct side.

Israel frames this war as a fight against Hamas but it is against Palestine as a whole. Israeli politicans have funded and propped Hamas up specifically because of their extremism, to divide Palestinians, reduce Western sympathy, and make a more palatable enemy to slaughter.