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[–] panopticon@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Wait wait wait! That sounds to me like a whataboutism!!!!!!!

[–] EmergMemeHologram@startrek.website 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Where am I doing whataboutism?

Ukraine gets invaded, people support them because it's a war of aggression with no real cause.

Palestine takes an offensive action with mass murder and kidnapping and then gets invaded, I don't think it's surprising people don't see it the same way. It's not the same as Ukraine at all.

People supported the US invading Iraq and Afghanistan even though they were tangentially related to 9/11. 20 years later it's clear that was a shit show and nobody would support doing it over again (the only good was ousting Sadam and Bin Laden).

Back to Israel Palestine. I don't support how Israel is doing any of this, closing the borders was wrong, the mass civilian deaths is wrong, flattening neighbourhoods for "buffer zones" and calls for settlement are wrong.

But there was never any outcome where Israel did nothing, nor ceded their land back to Palestine after this. Hamas's actions could only ever have had the outcome of an invasion.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

land back to Palestine after this. Hamas's actions

so you acknowledge israel stole palestine's land, but somehow palestine started this?