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Another CEO for mozilla. Good or bad news?

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[–] madsen@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago (2 children)

LibreWolf is a very decent Firefox fork. Open Source is great because bad CEOs can't really threaten the source code.

Not saying this one is bad though — I have no idea. The last one was raking in $7 million/year which is less than ideal for an open source project.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

Open Source is great because bad CEOs can't really threaten the source code.

Most of the time this is true, but for browser engines it's different because of their sheer size, complexity, need to adhere and collaborate with others to form web standards, need for security experts, day one vulnerability patches, etc.

If Mozilla dies, LibreWolf can't just pick up the slack. They die too. Volunteers alone can't run a modern web engine, it takes hundreds of millions per year to upkeep.

There's a reason why we're down to just Google, Apple, and Mozilla. Nobody wants to foot that bill unless they have a damn good reason for doing so.

It's probably more expensive to maintain a browser engine than a full operating system at this point.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 10 points 9 months ago (2 children)

I'll never understand why Microsoft dropped their engine. They can afford to develop it and it would've been a great advantage vs Google. I mean, it wouldn't have helped open source folk either way, but I just don't get why they dropped it.

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I was hoping MS could make a competent engine with a fresh start. I wouldn't even be mad if it was Windows only. Now Edge is just another Microsoft L

[–] cornshark@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What makes it a great advantage vs Google?

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Because they now have to go along with most things that Google says. They're reliant on Google now, they have to do what daddy tells them.

Add to that, they've conceded any sway in setting web standards, granting Google more control to push the web in the direction that benefits Google and harms competition.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 9 months ago

Perhaps we should take the clue and - if we also see clues of Mozilla enshittifying - switch globally to an easier internet that's also easier to program for. Something like Gemini (the post-Gopher thingy, not Google's latest fad) for example, where I take it maintaining a browser is nowhere near the same order of magnitude as complex.

[–] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I wish more distro's packaged librewolf. I know there's an appimage and such but I prefer native tested packages where possible.