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The instance seems to be mostly right wing trolls. I know defederating is unpopular but I don't think much is to be lost in this case and it can save the mods some headaches.

Edit: the response on exploding-heads.com to my reporting of transphobia. Courtesy of the "second in command"

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[–] NabiscoShredderWheat@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz 23 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Listen cupcake, you wanted decentralized freedom. This is what it looks like. People you don't agree with exist. Grow a pair and block them yourself.

[–] MachineTeaching@feddit.de 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well it doesn't have to look like that, people can openly discuss what they want to do as a community, deal with it snowflake.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, as someone who actually has an account on sh.it. I'd like to let exploding heads stay, but keep an eye on them.

[–] Difficult_Bit_1339@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You have a group of people who want a filter bubble and a group of people who want a community.

Who do you exclude from a filter bubble? : Anybody you disagree with.

Who do you exclude from a community? : People who commit violence or abuse.

It is healthy for you to be exposed to ideas you disagree with. It keeps you from becoming a person who is never challenged and does real harm when they think they're doing the right thing.

The standard should basically be: "If this person said what they said in public, would be put them in jail?" that's what gets them banned and instances full of those people get those instances defederated.

If you don't want to hear opinions you disagree with then use the block button. Build you filter bubble how you'd like, but you don't get to control everyone else's view of opinions.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, thank you! Finally, a reasonable take that doesn't go off the rails.

[–] Difficult_Bit_1339@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reasonable isn't popular.

Seems a lot of people here would burn all of the witches so long as that ensured that they burned the correct witches.

I haven't seen one person post a link to a post or comment that would justify de-federation. Instead they're setting up nice strawmen with nazi hats and then attacking them ruthlessly.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't worry about it. These people will go back to reddit eventually.

[–] Difficult_Bit_1339@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Maybe these specific people will...

But the idea of ruthlessly filtering people out of your sight if they disagree with you rather than engaging in conversation is endemic. These people have zero interest in being challenged in any way, it's easier to press block or press the downvote button than it is to reply. The OP wants to cut off an entire instance because that's easier for their existence.

They feel like they're doing the right thing... but you can't convince them otherwise because they won't engage in any kind of debate. If you disagree with them they'll just label you as a bad person (OP suggested that someone, who disagreed with them, should go make an account on EH "because you sound like you belong there") and put you outside of their filter bubble.

Or, to Godwin this entire thing, you know there was another group of people who decided to label an entire group of people as a problem and to cut them out of society...

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, it's the American way to pretend other people don't exist. Not much can be done to change their minds.

Unfortunately, I like to argue with idiots. It's why I'm still awake at 3am instead of sleeping. 💀

[–] eta_aquarid@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago

tell me that you're a white middle class guy who's never faced marginization without teling me that you're a white middle class guy who's never faced marginalization

[–] chalkman@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Listen Millefuille, you wanted decentralized freedom. Choosing to not associate with hateful ideas is what it looks like. People you don't agree with exist. Go find another instance.

[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

This is some top tier cringe right here.