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Has Palestine lost? (lemmygrad.ml)

Rafah is considered to be the last stronghold of Hamas, and Israel has just invaded it.

I was expecting this whole operation to result in the destruction or near-destruction of Israel, but it seems to not be the case. There isn't enough being done by other nations to stop Israel. Even the actions of the Houthis aren't enough.

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[-] ledlecreeper27@lemmygrad.ml 46 points 4 months ago

Remember that "Israel" occupied all of Palestine, including Gaza and the West Bank, for many years after the 1967 war and it still wasn't enough to destroy the resistance.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't see this ending in occupation, but expulsion. Israel wants that land and doesn't want the people, it's an obvious next step.

All they need is a partner to take expelled Palestinians and they crush resistance forever.

That's genocide, sure, but that won't stop them.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 23 points 4 months ago

It takes one collaborator Arab government to collapse for there to be another Yemen. If that government is Egypt or Jordan, Israel is done for. It’s hated by everyone in the region, it will always be resisted

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think Egypt and Jordan are far from becoming another Yemen but I could be wrong. I do think the Americans will go to great lengths to prop up their puppets there. Even if Palestine was completely calm, losing one of those would be a disaster for them.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 months ago

Both are ripe for revolution, both have high unemployment and poverty rates. In Egypt conditions are worse than 2011. The very exact opposite of the Arabian Gulf states where generally the people are fat and happy.

Of course many governments have vested interest in the Egyptian junta remaining in power. The Arabian Gulf governments are taking the approach of providing it with financial support.

[-] WaterBear@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

How do you see the situation in Rojava and the question of jesidic people in Syria, and Turkey's position, what do you think about the PKK? I ask cause it seems you did spend some time thinking about the geopolitics of the region.

[-] PanArab@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago

I don’t think I can form a coherent opinion on Rojava and the PKK. I am Saudi and my government support of them makes me suspicious, at the same time I don’t trust Turkye. Ethnic and religious minorities deserve rights and protections that aren’t provided to them, and they have the right to fight for them but carving nation states out of Syria and Iraq is not the solution.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

All they need is a partner to take expelled Palestinians and they crush resistance forever.

Palestinians don't just disappear if they are sent to Egypt.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago

They don't, but it will be a lot easier for the occupiers to colonize Gaza if the indigenous population has been deported. That is what the original Nakba was about.

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