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[–] N0body@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Story time: I went to an Iraq War protest back in the day. Some people wandered out of the protest zone and (to be completely fair, I didn't see what started the altercation) got their asses beat by the cops. One brave kid stood out from the crowd and said, "Come on, guys! We have to help them!" We all looked at each other and were like, "Uh... no." The brave lad then charged in and promptly got his ass beat by the cops. The war still happened.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Holy shit Americans are lame. No wonder your country sucks so much. In the civilised world that would've been a full on brawl, and they'd have burnt down the police station later for good measure.

[–] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean the French are constantly protesting/rioting but their police still brutalize protesters, rioters and innocent bystanders like it's a sport for them.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 8 points 10 months ago

Yeah for sure, cops suck in France too. But at least they fight back a bit.

[–] N0body@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Behold the native Internet Tough Guy in his comfortable habitat. From his keyboard, he is a great warrior. His hypothetical contributions to the history of war are legendary.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

That's not really a relevant criticism, I'm not talking about anything out of the ordinary. Plenty of not very tough people (like me) go to protests, but people are tougher when they are united. The idea that a protest would stick to some zone, or that people wouldn't try to help each other against the cops, is super sad. It makes you think they don't really believe in the thing they are protesting for at all.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 5 points 10 months ago

This really seems to depend on the society, say, French seem to have that healthy rioting culture where people would do as he says.

[–] acausal_masochist@awful.systems 2 points 10 months ago

Honestly, if you don't look out for each other it seems to defeat the whole point of an organized protest. I can spread the word on my own in a safe space without fear of organized retaliatory violence.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago

civilised

brawl

arson

Sure, why not

(I get* that it's a joke but what worries me is that it's actually said candidly, and worse, sometimes I myself think stuff like that. It might be just or moral (debatable), but it sure as fuck isn't civilized)

(*read: hope)

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I’ll let you lead the charge into the riot police.